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20 May 2008 9:52 PM by Poppyseed Star rating. 897 posts Send private message

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21 May 2008 9:55 AM by EOS Team Star rating in In Spain of course!. 4015 posts Send private message

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DETAILS OF MEETING TO BE HELD THIS WEEK

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Date:  Sunday 25 May
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Location:  Trident Room, Holiday Inn Hotel,   

COVENTRY ROAD
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Hotel Front Desk: 0870-400 9007

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An email will be sent to the whole group early next week informing you of the meeting outcome.

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21 May 2008 2:09 PM by georgia Star rating in Algorfa (As seen on .... 1835 posts Send private message

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maybe this needs to be another thread but buyers at Trampolin Hills development should check with their agents as after selling the majority of the project have been refused licence and are being investigated for fraud and bribery..........
This estate agency lark is turning into the Indiana Jones Trilogy at the moment,i am considering a position in the bomb disposals unit,it is less stressful that dodging the dodgy builders at the moment..........

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21 May 2008 2:27 PM by EOS Team Star rating in In Spain of course!. 4015 posts Send private message

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As promised, here is the interview I did with Maria de Castro yesterday discussing this San Jose situation.

It's not been adited so it's in it's raw state.  You can even hear the office dog barking away in the background.

Anyway, I hope you find it useful.

You can listen to hit here by clicking here and then clicking the play button.

If you prefer you can download the mp3 version to your pc by right-clicking here.

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21 May 2008 5:19 PM by pteire Star rating. 9 posts Send private message

The interview was very interesting, for which we thank EOS. 

However, what do you do when ALL MONIES have been paid, two years ago, but you have STILL not had your deeds?




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21 May 2008 5:39 PM by JimfromYork Star rating. 4 posts Send private message

A big thank you to Justin and Maria for a really informative interview.

I would recommend to anyone involved in this debacle it is well worth 30 mins of your time.

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21 May 2008 7:23 PM by Chrissie1 Star rating in UK. 384 posts Send private message

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Maria & Justin

Thank you for such an informative and straight forward interview.  

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22 May 2008 9:20 AM by Bluebottle Star rating. 2 posts Send private message

Hi I am new here although i have been lurking for a while i also know this is not on topic  (answering to Georgia post) I have sold properties here for 7 years and on Trampolin Hills, in good faith when lawyers have been advised and told clients all is well,  i find your post incredably arrogant are you telling me that no other developer is or has been in this situation now or before, most of them were lucky early on  and got away with it either by corrupt mayors or other wise.  A minority of agents are genuine and honest and act in good faith after all we are not lawyers.  oh and i also have been on TV  4 years ago (not pushing into everyone face) what difference is that going to make in this climate. i have only this to say to you ´people in glass house should not throw stones´ I truly hope that all your sales past , present and in the future are trouble free as you know the old saying ´what goes around comes around¨´ 



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22 May 2008 9:47 AM by Acapulco Star rating in Costa Blanca South.. 342 posts Send private message

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Hi Bluebottle, it,s always good to see new posters and particularly ones with experience in property dealings. I hope you can advise and support us potential buyers.
On this occasion  I think you are being a little over sensitive. As you must have realised during your " lurking " days, Georgia has been very helpful to a lot of people and often gone " beyond the call of duty". Hopefully you are of similar character.
I look forward to your future posts


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22 May 2008 10:54 AM by Bluebottle Star rating. 2 posts Send private message

Hi thanks for your welcome and maybe i was a little, however it angers me when all agents are tarred with the same brush, we started selling properties seven years ago and were one of best value agents here.  We are i have to say still selling properties because i truly believe that only the strongest focused agents who care about there clients will survive.  My beef with Georgia was not personal and if i had known then what i know now well.......i just do not like being held resposible for what was out of my control if lawyers were not involved then fair enough but lawyers were advising not me, i also do not steer my clients to any lawyer, bank, or foreign exchange company  they chose there own.  Thankfully i can sleep at night.



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22 May 2008 11:26 AM by morerosado Star rating. 6927 posts Send private message

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Hi Bluebottle & a warm welcome to EOS. 

I echo Acapulco's feelings regarding Georgia. Georgia is not just an estate agent with a MASSIVE heart, he is now a personal friend of mine after we met up after becoming mates on the forum over a  year or so ago & he generally speaks about the BIG AGENTS when he comments. There are great agents out there, many have spoken about theirs. Mostly though, we all feel, there are those who want their commission regardless of whether they've done their homework. I think most of us understand certain things that happen are out of agents hands & they too have problems. 

You sound like you are an agent who cares too & it's good to hear from you. Just kindly don't slag our Georgia off or you'll have More to deal with.  

 

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22 May 2008 4:08 PM by PLUSADVISORS Star rating in Torrevieja. 7 posts Send private message

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 Hi there,

First of all, I would like to introduce ourselves. We are a law firm based in Orihuela area-Torrevieja. Actually, we are working together with another law firm in Alicante (Price-Waterhouse) in several lawsuits against San Jose, having clients in all the phases: with private purchase contracts but without Title Deeds, waiting for completion; others in the phase of asking for the refund of their moneys for breach of contract and up until 142 clients with law suits before the Orihuela Courts (as you would probably know, where San Jose is based).

Due to we are so closed to the area where San Jose is has their head quarters, we are aware of some “news” which do not usually appear in newspapers and that we consider all the affected ones by the current situation, should know about.

Some months ago, the main Administrator of the company made proceedings in order to pass all his personal assets in the name of his wife apart from taking other measures to safeguard himself for the possible actions of Court. However, this is nothing to worry anybody because Judicial Administrators named by the Court can null all the actions done by a company up until 2 years since Court has accepted the case.

It is important for you to know as well that about the complex of the Shareholders of San Jose. The 40% of the company is in hands of a few, the rest are little shareholders from Orihuela and little towns around it, who have invested their savings in small amounts (from 20.000 € to 200.000 €). Within the current situation, the last ones are the most damaged ones, due to they are not creditors, and because of that, they have began to take actions that could make more difficult the viability of the company now in hands of Judicial Administrators.

We are aware as well that in the last 2 months, there have been many agreements with creditors where debts were paid with properties and dwellings.

It is true that all those affected by this situation should make it known to the Judicial Administrators, although please note as well that it does not mean at all that you would be refunded back all the amounts paid for the purchase of your properties. Actually, the first task of the administrators will be to try to complete the residentitals and urbanizations in order to complete the transactions, not to pay back any money. Nevertheless, take into account that the location of the properties will have a lot of importance and each one has a different situation. Just for your information and as far as we know:

1) Jumilla has the Partial Planning approved, so the urbanization is considered as “legal”, however, San Jose cannot be issued licences or are not able to go ahead with the building until the infrastructures problems are not completed, that is, they must pay the expropriation of the land plots located in the main entrance of the residential and the execution of the works for the accesses to the urbanization and the connection with the motorway. This is a problem of 5 million € that San Jose does not have nowadays.

2) Playa Golf. Almost all the properties are finished and they have granted as well inhabitation licences. Those faints that San Jose had to pay for beginning the works without licences (so illegally) have been paid already. So, with this urbanization, there would not be administrative problems.

3) El Pinet. This is a more complex issue. We would not have any inconvenience to explain to those interested in this matter or having a property there about their queries without any obligation, but being so long, it is easier to do it though mail.

We are sure, you will be asking at this stage how is it possible that a company so big and with so many sales has gone to this situation? This question has a very easy reply: the bad management of the company towards the land. They bought land plots where they were not able to build in, something that delayed all the projects, so almost in all the developments they were not able to finish them on time. The money of your deposits was gone a long time ago to buy other land plots. We have the example of “Dolores Park”, where San Jose invested a massive amount of money but where they do not have licences to build and moreover, they will probably not have it ever!

To sum up, we are really affected because this situation is trespassing the whole economy of the area where 500 direct workers and 3.000 indirect workers could be fired.

We believe that due to the assets owned by the company, if Judicial Administrators manage properly their work and if creditors and buyers show some comprehension, all could have a happy ending. However, all of us will need to have patience and to act on time and measure. It is very important to be aware of the stages done by the Judicial Administrators and the ones stipulated by Law and to wait the possible negotiation.

I hope this post clarifies some of your queries, but please contact us in case of having any further without any kind of obligation 



 





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22 May 2008 11:46 PM by Gillespie Star rating in Costa Calida Area. 608 posts Send private message

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Plusadvisors.......fantastic insight, an unbelievablely useful post for those concerned. very brave, well done.

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23 May 2008 9:15 AM by georgia Star rating in Algorfa (As seen on .... 1835 posts Send private message

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Hi Bluebottle,
I dont want to detract from this thread so i will keep this brief.
I wasn't having a go at anyone other than the developers who build without licence and maybe some of the large agents that are aware of the fact.
I am sorry that you took this the wrong way,i was purely highlighting that you have to be very very careful who you use now when selling new build property.
And to add to your point of what goes around comes around,i am sorting of banking on that one................

More and Acalpulco,thanks for the comments guys.

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23 May 2008 12:10 PM by BobShe Star rating. 31 posts Send private message

Hi EOS Moderator
Very interesting Audio and helpful.
Can we ask the following question:
We have a property on Playa Golf 3.  There are 25 unsold properties.  Who is liable to pay the Builders share of the Community Charge.  The current total for SJ on our Community is 7000E.  Are the owners legally bound to pay or does his share come out of the administration?

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23 May 2008 1:24 PM by jillyg Star rating in Deepcut, Surrey. 57 posts Send private message

Hi Justin & Maria

The interview was brilliant and very informative. 

We must all keep fighting 

Gill & Keith

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25 May 2008 6:19 PM by Buckshe Star rating. 9 posts Send private message

Hi

Recently learned about the San Jose issue and currently racing against time to complete the purchase on our property on R2 Playa Golf III. Atlas are adament that the sale is good to go but I have just had a call from a neighbour on the site with a very concerning tale. I'm not sure whether Playa Golf III, which has all construction complete is in the same 'at risk category' as San Jose's other developments. I'm new to the site and as there have been no further posts since Friday, has activity moved to a different area on EOS?

Many thanks.

Neil



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25 May 2008 6:31 PM by morerosado Star rating. 6927 posts Send private message

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Hi Neil

Welcome to EOS forum.

I haven't heard any more on EOS. 

You could join in with your owners forum for Playa Golf III too HERE, just click blue link.

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26 May 2008 7:51 AM by mariadecastro Star rating in Algeciras (Cadiz). 9419 posts Send private message

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Back here to the fight after a couple of days off.

Thanks for all your appreciation words and EOS´ work.

Thanks to Plusadvisors for its balanced input, wise, full of commun sense and legal art.

Our very best advise right now is.... to calmly start looking for proper, committed and  independent legal advisor to be in charge of the protection of your deposits. You just also need to become conscious that you are in a new phase of your investment adventure in Spain, that you need to gather your experience and learn out of it and start fighting with new energiesto regain the much confidence and rights you can.

There are legal tools, they just need to be craftily played.

Best wishes,

Maria

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26 May 2008 8:50 AM by southern girl Star rating. 10 posts Send private message

I have posted on the El Pinet forum but would like to have some information re El Pinet as mentioned in the Plus Advisor post.



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