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31 Mar 2009 12:00 AM by MAGICMEG Star rating in Scotland. 546 forum posts Send private message

www.laverdad.es/alicante/20090327/deportes_alicante/orihuela/investigan-presidente-orihuela-presunta-20090327.html

 

Sorry I can't create a link .Copy and paste into the search bar and you should get it .

 

 

What do you reckon now Tonymal that they are not crooks ?


 



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31 Mar 2009 2:53 PM by MAGICMEG Star rating in Scotland. 546 forum posts Send private message

The article in my last post is in La Verdad 27th March 2009 . I have been trying to post a translated copy but am having techno trouble .If anyone wants to see a translated version try googling San Jose Inversiones Orihuela  .The link there has a translate option .  Looks like the presidente could end up in jail after all . Cheers  MM



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31 Mar 2009 6:51 PM by Chrissie1 Star rating in UK. 384 forum posts Send private message

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As usual MM nothing to do with Jumilla  something to do with sport yes.       There are a couple more paragraphs but its boring me    : Just thought I would make it easy for you to read.  P.S. I have not made it up and I haven't been paid either.  sorry to disappoint.

The exit of the Orihuela Club of Soccer of Jose Rodriguez was marked by the economic misalignments. The Antonio partners Stone quarry and Domingo Alcocer forced the ex- president to leave their position at the end of the past season. Months later a representation of the directive put a criminal complaint against the agent chief executive by a presumed swindle and illegal appropriation. The denunciation brings to light a possible one turned aside of a credit that requested the sport organization by 500,000 Euros and the crossing of 100,000 Euros of a municipal subsidy to San jOse City-planning Investments and Projects, company of which Rodriguez is founding partner and present president. The court number 2 of Orihuela has admitted to proceeding this complaint in which person in charge to the ex- president becomes of the Orihuela and to its son to transfer in several operations 460,000 Euros of a loan that the sport club asked for the CAM to assume the costs of season 2007-08. The denouncers protest to know the destiny of these economic bottoms to the been left salary like indebted because the credit was not paid. The denunciation reflects that “a single Euro has not been given back to the borrower”. The mercantile guarantor of the operation was Imperium City dwellers, another mercantile one of whom Jose Rodriguez also is president, although the money crossing was realised to San jOse Joint-stock company. The denouncers affirm that “at any moment the president had knowledge of these operations, reason why distracted the economic bottoms of the sport organization for their own city-planning aims”.
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31 Mar 2009 7:06 PM by c8hall Star rating in Sheffield. 1 forum posts Send private message

Not been on the site for a long time & equally not getting much feedback from my so called solicitor.

Any updates on the administartion process & expected timescales ?

 

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31 Mar 2009 7:15 PM by far Star rating in Dundrum, Co. Down. 169 forum posts Send private message

Chrissie

 

I think it has a lot to do with jumilla unfortunately, as if criminal proceedings are brought against Jose Rodriguez i would imagine all accounts would be frozen while things were under investigation. I no longer have any optimism for El Pinet even though some of the houses are only weeks from completion. Once there is a criminal investigation this is a whole different ball game, years and years come to mind!

 

 

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31 Mar 2009 7:33 PM by Chrissie1 Star rating in UK. 384 forum posts Send private message

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Far Hi

The whole lot has been frozen for months now so I dont think reading this makes any difference to this pathetic situation.

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31 Mar 2009 9:32 PM by MAGICMEG Star rating in Scotland. 546 forum posts Send private message

Chrissie  I have refrained from saying this for months but you are not very clever are you ?  Sorry but it had to be said just like it does for Tonymal and Brianmags .This is an article from the La Verdad news paper 27th March 2009  it has serious and  huge consequences for us and our situation  Dooooooohhhhh !!!!!!!  Stick with SARC I am sure you will be fine Dooooooohhhh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MM


 



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01 Apr 2009 3:32 PM by sterling Star rating in Kent & Partaloa, Alm.... 206 forum posts Send private message

Dearest Magicmeg,

I do believe that you should change your forum name to 'SEPTICPEG '  It seems to suit you better. or even  'TOXICMEG'

both suit you very very well   You must be a joy to know.



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01 Apr 2009 5:28 PM by MAGICMEG Star rating in Scotland. 546 forum posts Send private message

Perhaps you should change yours to Sheep ,Ostrich or fluffy bunny  .!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will continue to call a spade a spade on here as we are all adults and if we were all fluffy bunnies like you it would be too boring to bother discussing anything .Regards MM AKA  Septic Peg if it makes you feel better .



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02 Apr 2009 7:51 AM by auntielinda Star rating in San Miguel de Salina.... 646 forum posts Send private message

Yesterday at 1141 the La Zenia 18 & Playa Golf 3

Had visits from "suited Gents" we personally did not see them but one of the residents took the letter on our behalf to cut a long storey short they came baring photocopied Iberdrola bills in the name of San Jose Inversiones NOT us personally they were for varying amounts ours was 74 euros but 2 got them for 500+ euros now this seems an awful lot for 3 months of electric, they were accompanied with a notarised letter in Spanish

Our was taken directly to our solicitor we await confirmation of the content as I type

Apparently the water & Electric are being cut off if the bills are not paid within 7 days well SAN JOSE get your fingers out from up the bum and pay up you are the ones who refused to take the 60 euros every month from all of us

I will keep you all up to date on the ruthless tatics these cowboys are employing to get us out WELL SORRY TO SAY WE ARE STAyING PUT TILL YOU PAY UP



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02 Apr 2009 8:08 AM by Laird Dave of Lochaber Star rating in San Miguel De Salina.... 180 forum posts Send private message

Now Tony Mal, does this sound like a company you can trust to deliver what it says. I think not!! Bunch of crooked, gutless, lying bastards more like. I feel sorry for you in the fact that you actually believe these people to be honest and trustworthy and that you would like the rest of us to believe this as well. So sad!




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02 Apr 2009 6:39 PM by MAGICMEG Star rating in Scotland. 546 forum posts Send private message

I haven't trusted them for years now but  am  amazed at how low can they actually go.Have they no Idea.Scum Bags !!!!!!!



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04 Apr 2009 12:50 AM by joanie666 Star rating. 231 forum posts Send private message

 Not meaning to make you all feel worse/ better but as you can see the net is closing around san jose including many of his family members who have acted criminally (that is you too Almundy!!) This company is going no-where but its directors are mostly likely going to Prison. I hope that they rot there they deserve no better. Please read the bit below about Jumilla also which really does demonstrate how they have manipulated us from the very start. Tony you really are a very sad sad fool

New storm for the board of directors of Inversol SA e Imperium SA, branchs of the joint-stock company San jOse Group. The controversial assemblies celebrated in August of the 2008 ended at a criminal complaint of several partners who the holder of the court number 2 of Orihuela has admitted to proceeding. As first inquiries the magistrada one has required the economic balance from the 2004 to the 2007, since presumed club crimes, concealment of accounts and swindle are investigated.
In the complaint they are mentioned to declare the seventeen components of the boards of directors of the two companies. Between the defendants she is the top person in charge of the San jOse Group, Jose Rodriguez, their children, their Antonio brother Rodriguez and a good number of relatives and close friends who conform the administration advice. Also one is mentioned Francisco Jose Rodriguez, who outside financial director of these societies and which resigned from his position, according to he says the document “months before not to be in agreement with the management… and that camouflaged the countable data by instructions of the president”.
The leaders of these companies will have to appear in the oriolano Palace of Justice days 1 and 29 of July to give their version of the denounced thing, as he affirms in the car in which the complaint is admitted to proceeding and to that has had daily east access. The plaintiffs assure that the managers created these societies “in order to deceive their shareholders and to take control for himself the bottoms and cash”, something that now will have to demonstrate in the courts.
The opening of previous diligences of this denunciation completes a horrifying year for the San jOse Group, since the first company and the Shod branch of the Tollo are in contest of creditors from May of the 2008. A group of partners critics denounced these information in the two annual assemblies that were celebrated summer the past. Both sessions ended controversy so that it was denounced, in that one occasion, that the accounts were not clear and that the votings on the matter were not democratic.
In any case now the partners founders face a complaint by presumed turned aside of bottoms and acts to the society Inversol Grupo Urbanístico SA e Imperium Urbanitas SA. In the first rule one notices that “the annual accounts were falsified showing the partners in the general meetings a state of the accounts and presenting/displaying another different one in the Mercantile Registry”. The difference in the balance is realised, as it relates the complaint, in the indebted games of treasury and, reason why in the 2004 and the 2005 a treasury was reflected “superior to the real one and credits against indebted inferiors to the reality”, assure.
They base them to the irregularities in more than 5.4 million Euros and it is alluded to that the financial director let his position not be in agreement with the management. For the supposed crime of falsification in the accounts there are prison sentences of one to three years. Another one of the facts that are denounced is a loan from Imperium to San jOse by 5.9 million Euros. The plaintiffs affirm that “to camouflage this debt the 8.95 percent from a property to Imperium was yielded and the debt by 4.5 million Euros was eliminated”. This land, located in the Mountain range of the Carche (Jumilla), maintains that it is described like nonurbanizable and of special protection. For this reason they indicate that “it is made see that the land has a value of 14.8 million Euros and its value with the object of the social object is zero, because to houses nor golf courses cannot be constructed”.
The plaintiffs realised one second appraisal of this land, in which she affirms that the loan of this part of the property “has a price of 331,000 Euros when they try to give a value him of almost six million Euros”.
This subject was brought to light in the Truth after the assembly of partners of Imperium. The plaintiffs remember in the admitted document to proceeding by the court that the president defended that “in his action he was supported by the administration advice and if had committed an error would correct itself and it has not been City planning will to clear nothing to Imperium to give it to other companies”, indicate the plaintiffs in words of the leader.
 




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04 Apr 2009 9:15 AM by auntielinda Star rating in San Miguel de Salina.... 646 forum posts Send private message

 

Joannie thanks for the post there is nothing those of us in touch with the world of SJ don't already know  now more news

Thank goodness we have changed our mobile number otherwise we many be like at least 4 residents at the La zenia apartments whon have had a phone call and have been offered property at Playa Golf with varied prices and discounts only one to my knowledge who is an El Pinet client has been offered the whole amount of his deposit in exchange for taking one of the unsold properties I have told the person concerned to ask how many times the actual property offered has been mortgaged and just how much is owed. Only my opinion but I have a feeling they have a buyer lined up for the office and apartments and need us all out



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04 Apr 2009 9:52 AM by joanie666 Star rating. 231 forum posts Send private message

 Hi Linda. No doubt you could tell us much worse news that would depress us all. I have asked my lawyer whether this means all accounts will be frozen pending a criminal case tat could take much time to complete.

 

On the positive for you it may actually prevent them from selling La Zenia and you may be in a position to stay longer!!!!

 

 




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04 Apr 2009 2:23 PM by joanniemac Star rating. 241 forum posts Send private message

Hi Joannie666, Thanks for posting the lastest little " gem" on these thieves! Its not looking good for any of us getting our cash back. How can they still be in business? It is almost a year since this concurso farce started and we are no further forward, no light at the end of the tunnel, and no chance of SADM ever going ahead. I,m fed up with the whole rotten system, it seems to be geared up against us purchasers, and favours dishonourable, dishonest developers. Cheers Joanniemac




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04 Apr 2009 5:58 PM by joanie666 Star rating. 231 forum posts Send private message

 Hi joanniemac. It could mean that all elements of the company are finally liquidated and there is more chance of everyone getting more. My only concern is how long this will take. The court has already passed its legal deadlines for hearing the incidentals so we are obviously not even being protected by the court system either. The whole thing sucks




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04 Apr 2009 8:04 PM by joanniemac Star rating. 241 forum posts Send private message

Hi Joanie666, the sooner the whole SJ group are put into liquidation the better. It is a worry re the timescale, nothing seems to have any sense of urgency.We have been waiting over 6 months trying to get our contract resolved and still no news. Cheers Joanniemac




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07 Apr 2009 11:33 AM by TonyMal Star rating in Oxfordshire. 1090 forum posts Send private message

Hi ALl,

I have read the "colouring" postings concerning claims of criminal practices and assumptions as to the impact upon SADM and the administration process:

Firstly can we get it very clear that SARC is interseted in saving SADM and the purcahsers money not the company/ies or management there of. It is purely interseted in the purchasers plight despite the snide remarks from those who have a BG in their pocket ( that does not include all who have BGs, the most of which are not trying to talk SADM down and get those of us without BGS in a worse mess)

Secondly criminal and commercial court actions are seperate and as we are not familiar with the legal system in Spain, it would be premature to be jumping to any comclusion that any possible criminal action could have. It is also important to note accustations is one thing and proof of or being guilty of criminal acts is another.

Perhaps rather than keep on trying to find a reason for  SADM not to proceed people started to think how can we get it to go ahead and hw can we truly become champions of our own destiny. The time for the blame game has not yet come, the current priority is to get SADM underway, get properties built for those who want them & commence repayment from the funds raised to those who want them back.  The majority of the purcahsers would not benifit from HdT going down, as there is no money available to refund anyone and  realising the assets would be very dificult in the current financial crisis.

 I WANT MY HOUSE & A POSITIVE OUTCOME FOR ALL

Tony R17 18




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07 Apr 2009 12:23 PM by redman Star rating. 235 forum posts Send private message

Are you for f****n real.  I've read some things in my time but you continue to take the whole packet....

 

 




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