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09 Feb 2013 6:24 PM by peel19 Star rating. 3 posts Send private message

Can anyone provide an update on the opening of Corvera airport please





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09 Feb 2013 7:25 PM by clieve Star rating in south wales & Phase .... 194 posts Send private message

 Hi,

No date has been given out if you want to keep up with the latest news on the airport you need to subscribe to Murcia Today,

They keep you up to date with all the news in the Murcia region.

The opening date of the airport was suggested to be, the start of the summer 2013.

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18 Feb 2013 8:17 AM by tamaraessex Star rating in Colmenar, Malaga. 508 posts Send private message

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Here's the latest, from yesterday's El Pais.

http://politica.elpais.com/politica/2013/02/15/actualidad/1360957195_518475.html

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18 Feb 2013 12:26 PM by tony&kim Star rating in Crosby, Merseyside a.... 68 posts Send private message

Anybody got a rough translation?

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18 Feb 2013 12:38 PM by juansheetisplenty Star rating in Cartagena. 283 posts Send private message

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Provided by Google 

Antonio Sánchez Hernández used the overwhelming logic of the field. "I imagine it will open and then close it," he says, pointing to what the posters call "International Airport of the Region of Murcia." Antonio, 72, a retired mason and farmer in his spare time, watering their 20 acres of land to try to save the harvest.

The airport pointing across the road is a gray building with stainless steel blades. It's nice and say it has won design awards. You can not go, see the bushes just hovering between the track, the empty parking lot, the unused control tower. Not a commercial flight has landed here among almond and fruit, although the facility, which cost 266 million euros, has completed one year. A list of shame, no aircraft-Castellón airport, Ciudad Real, Huesca ... -, excl Corvera, with less advertising and without being opened.

Murcia would be Florida. Or better, California. In the bubble, proliferatedresorts , thousands of homes and golf courses, near the coast to attract British. The regional government of the PP, joined the party. Money seemed to be a problem. Thus was born the turnpike Cartagena-Vera, covering 100 kilometers of unspoilt coastline to service future developments. After going to go Marina de Cope, a behemoth in a natural park. The icing was a private airport to attract swarms of tourists.Regional president, Ramón Luis Valcárcel, not enough with the great Alicante airport, 75 km from Murcia. Or the partial use of the military base in San Javier, Murcia.

So in 2006 awarded a consortium led by Sacyr the construction of this airport . "It is unique because it has consisted of one euro is public ownership of the community," he says in his office the director general of Transport, Antonio Sanchez-Solis. At the entrance of counseling there is a large model of the airport. And in front of the office of director, other.

The plan calls for closing another public aerodrome which invested 70 million."With these passenger flights will"

In 2008, to begin work, he soon saw that nothing was going as planned."Then down bank financing and the dealership is difficult, are blocked negotiations with financial institutions, and independent community came to the rescue logically avalándole Dealers. That's not supposed to have put a penny, "says Sanchez-Solis.

The "help" was a guarantee of 200 million to the project community. The PP introduced in an amendment to the 2010 budget and so linked its fate to the play. If the grant bankruptcy, banks-Caixabanc, Espirito Santo, Caixa Tarragona, Caja Segovia, Cajasol, ICO and Tarragona-box to require 200 million in debt and a community that in 2012 had to borrow 527 million Liquidity Fund Autonomic. "It was time to drop the work and nothing would have happened, but Valcárcel was determined to follow, "says a source familiar with the plan that requires anonymity.

With the support of the community credit flowed and works pick up pace again. They ended a year ago, according to the project, although there was no ribbon cutting and champagne. The image of the fiascos of Castellon and Murcia City Real flies. No politician will open it without a plane. "It is under equipment and missing some authorizations" qualifies responsible for regional transportation, who gives no date for its opening: "It would be unwise." The archive is full of ads for the upcoming opening of the airport.

The main problem is that, at 35 kilometers, the Ministry of Development has just invested 70 million in improving the airport of San Javier. AENA, the company responsible for managing the civil part, built between 2004 and 2011 a new terminal, new runway and a control tower. And it requires that the community or the new airport is the pay. "Neither the community nor the dealer have the money. What we can do is to pierce those assets to the Ministry of Defense, "an insider says of the project.

Turnpike and they completed the work megaurbanización have fallen and investors are nervous

The situation is diabolical: a new airport 266 million required to close another public, which is 35 kilometers and in which to invest 70 million just anyone can make. "Valcárcel was determined to have his AENA airport when he knew that was investing in San Javier. He said he would triple the number of tourists and there is nothing ", criticizes Retegui Begoña García, Socialist spokesman. In Murcia tort wields over Alicante. "Murcia has traditionally been punished in communications. The Mediterranean stop in Alicante, until recently did not have a motorway to Madrid and no split rail network. And that is a tourist area, "Sanchez-Solis argues.Murcia's government insists it will not be another airport without planes.Valcarcel said that there is an airfield "to walk", alluding to Castellon, who became "the greater glory of the father of the baby" - dart against Carlos Fabra and daughter Andrea.

Although the community says that everything is in order and there is no risk to the guarantee, the months and the shareholders are concerned.Along with Sacyr-that when the work was launched presiding Luis del Rivero-Murcia is in Murcia capital companies (El Pozo and Cementos Cruz), banks (CAM and Caja Murcia) and Real Estate (Montoro and Sons and Inprisma). Each of these has a share of around 6%, but some are beginning to tire of paying interest and have no opening date.Montoro and Sons has already called out the shareholders, the company said.

Even if AENA accepts close the airport of San Javier, clouds remain. The numbers which are mounted the business are now more than doubtful: passenger traffic in San Javier has fallen from two million in 2007 to 1.2 in 2012. If Corvera absorb all traffic from San Javier would not reach 5.2 million passengers in 2015, as provided in the contract. "If you open, public support should be given immediately, as has been done with toll roads. Furthermore, it would have closed the public airport, "says a source in the back of the operation. The dealership does not comment on the situation, although some people remember to renegotiate the terms of the concession is a common practice.

Unaware of the negotiations between Sacyr, AENA and the community, in the discouragement rife. Land owners have claimed claim that only a fraction of the expropriation. Ascension Noguera is among the 90 owners affected: "I am paying a mortgage on the land of lemons I bought with all the enthusiasm and now there is nothing." At least, she says, she worked in the construction of the airport. Pending the training staff, but are delayed again and again.

Antonio Sanchez, the farmer turns to look around him and diagnosed: "No hard. The money is gone. At the resort 's 1,500 houses and 20 families live. Foreigners are tired of them cheat. " Talk smiling, leisurely, without rancor, but every sentence is a blow: "The airport was not necessary, but they have been wrong all. What we had to do in thirty years we did it in less than ten. My daughter is a teacher and her school have no oil for heating. The only aircraft that I see here is the pivot ".And he points out the irrigation system pipes passing air over his head.

The motorway Cartagena-Vera is in bankruptcy and the law allowing megaurbanización Cope Marine in a nature reserve on the coast has been annulled by the Constitutional. Do you save the airport from the curse of the Pharaohs of Murcia plans?





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18 Feb 2013 12:40 PM by juansheetisplenty Star rating in Cartagena. 283 posts Send private message

20 May 2013 11:21 AM by raviss Star rating in St Hall (London). 121 posts Send private message

And the latest news on airport - it's siesta time....................





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20 May 2013 12:37 PM by steone Star rating in Santiago de la Riber.... 383 posts Send private message

 

The original question is slightly ambiguous. As reported in Murcia Today it looks like Corvera will be forced to 'open' very soon. However it will then close almost immediately.
The questioner should have asked when will anyone be able to fly into and out of Corvera. The answer to this is nobody knows and probably not for the foreseeable future or maybe not even in my lifetime.

As usual deals are being done 'under the counter' but if we look at the fundamental financial problem it is that AENA demand at least €70 million to close Murcia San Javier (MJV) and the consortium that owns Corvera are to put it mildly bankrupt. No further finance is available and some of the backers are demanding their money back so there is no chance of AENA getting their money. It has also been stated that Corvera are not making their repayments on the loans they already have so obviously can't borrow another €70 million plus. As stated what might happen is that MJV stays open and Corvera also opens! If this happens it spells complete disaster for Corvera as at the moment MJV is only just making a paper profit so where are all the new flights/passengers going to come from?

So to sum it all up...........viva Espana



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20 May 2013 2:19 PM by raviss Star rating in St Hall (London). 121 posts Send private message

Although I feel the same, I still believe that it may be possible............

Sums do not add up and how these deals were not concluded before all this work started, is beyond my understanding...

Many thanks for your input, may be it's time to wind down our dreams and cut our losses.

 





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20 May 2013 4:58 PM by Roly2 Star rating in Almeria. 646 posts Send private message

 wind down our dream???? Corvera was never a dream of mine - I prefer to fly into Almeria, and then San Javier where I can sit by the Mar Menor and enjoy a meal before traveling home.    The only broken dreams would be for those people who bought at Corvera I would think.   Most people I know would rather leave things as they are - though if there was a serious prospect of Paramount being built I could be persuaded that another airport would be a good thing.  Not holding my breath!!

 





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20 May 2013 5:58 PM by raviss Star rating in St Hall (London). 121 posts Send private message

I gather that you didn't complete at Corvera???





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20 May 2013 6:27 PM by Roly2 Star rating in Almeria. 646 posts Send private message

 No - the resort type properties have never appealed to me, though I have friends at Roda, and I stay there and I enjoy it. I have never been to Corvera at all, though I do like both San Javier and Murcia to visit.  I sincerely hope that most people did not complete on the basis of an airport - and that those who did complete are happy.  It has always struck me on Roda that people are happy with the development, though would have preferred it to be completely finished.   Roda has quite a lot of Spanish owners and that does help to get things done.  I think Roda was the sister development of Corvera?





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20 May 2013 7:46 PM by aliton Star rating. 331 posts Send private message

 

We have used airports all over the world and the one we always enjoy flying to and from is Murcia San Javier. Its Small but modernised and perfectly acceptable facilities, great system for picking up and returning car hire.  DEPARTURES ..From  walking into the terminal building with hand luggage you can be at the "Gate"  in 10 minutes and that includes going though security.

Arrivals are in the same situation where you can be driving off with your hire car in 30 minutes from your landing, Remarkable . Only down side is the lack of public transport onward from MSJ.  

Why the hell they made a decision to build another airport 15 minutes away is beyond me.   EEC Funded no doubt? 



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20 May 2013 8:20 PM by Roly2 Star rating in Almeria. 646 posts Send private message

 Agree re San Javier, but no, not funded.  Corvera is a private venture and I think the investers are in a spot of bother.  The region of Murcia though guaranteed some of the loans so the implications are far reaching.





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21 May 2013 7:52 AM by raviss Star rating in St Hall (London). 121 posts Send private message

To Roly 2,

I am really not sure what you are doing on this forum if you are not an investor??

Appreciate your comments and concerns but you MUST have better things to do in your life.

Regards.

 

 





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21 May 2013 8:32 AM by raviss Star rating in St Hall (London). 121 posts Send private message

Aliton - I enjoy flying to MJV......It's a breeze to get through and almost everyone recognises you (after you have been through this airport half a dozen times and I have been going through this airport since 1992) - Don't mind MJV at all. Alicante is too too shabby either- it's improved a lot. As far as Corvera Airport - atleast the road infrastructure has improved since this project started. If it opens GREAT - if it doesn't MJV is more than acceptable. Straight run to Corvera...............





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21 May 2013 9:14 AM by Roly2 Star rating in Almeria. 646 posts Send private message

 Raviss - do you think that you are on the Covera Community Forum?   I will assume that you do and therefore ignore your incredibly rude comment.





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21 May 2013 10:40 AM by aliton Star rating. 331 posts Send private message

 

Hello Ravis ...The Post is about Corvera airport  and the website is "Eye on Spain". Its for people all over the world keeping an "Eye on Spain" as it says on the tin. 

You dont have to be "an investor" as you put it to read any posts and comment on them and I agree with Roly 2 that your remark was rude and uncalled for.    get a life yourself.



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24 May 2013 6:43 AM by steone Star rating in Santiago de la Riber.... 383 posts Send private message

Today there is a front page story in 'thecourier.es' stating that we are now going to have legal action over Corvera Airport. It also states that the very earliest that it will open is next year which is in breach of aggreements between Murcia and the 'owners'. It goes on to say that they want to revoke to licence and try and appoint a new licence holder and there are at least 3 companies that want to bid for it........are these companies completely mad? At the moment MJV is running and NOT closing as it is run by the State. How can a PRIVATE enterprise group insist that they must close a State run airport so that a private one can take their business? Only in Spain.

The plot thickens



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24 May 2013 6:57 AM by guslopez Star rating in Lorca, Murcia.. 744 posts Send private message

Quie easy . You offer landing fees at hugely reduced rates. They wouldn't have to pay off AENA then as the traffice would migrate naturally to Corvera & it would probably come from Alicante as well. Business is business, Ryanair would be in there in no time.



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