Unauthorized bars on windows

uploaded some pictures, grills or bars on windows and doors are not autorized by community,in some blocks everyone do what they want to...

I think they should pull out bars and let buildings as once was.

regards

To be honest I think the security bars look in keeping with the environment and arestandard for ground floor properties in most of the area anyway.  I think people just want to secure their homes after a lot of break ins.

According to this article by Justin bars are law for new properties on the ground floor now.  Does anyone know if this is true?  We haven't fitted any bars but would want to if we felt threatened.

http://www.eyeonspain.com/spain-magazine/secure-property.aspx

I would like to have bars fitted to our ground floor second bedroom window.  I think the problem is that, because the community has decided they don't want to allow them, there is no uniformity in the design and quality of those that have been installed by owners (who may be told to remove them under the current rules).

Personally, I would like to see them being allowed for the ground floor apartments at least and for the administration to agree a design for those that wish to have them - and they could then agree better pricing from a company who could service the whole community!

I believe that owners will be in the majority now so we could agree on grills (rejas) on windows. Also, we should agree that they are painted the same shade of brown as the shutters.

Now we if we bring this up at the AGM we may not get it thru as Gerardo will most likely have more votes than those present and proxies.

However it could be agreed at an EGM.

I think it best that we approach Gerardo first and get him on board. I will attempt to do this before the AGM. If thats what people want. 

Dear All,

I really don't have a problem with the grills.  You can't blame people for wanting to protect their own property, especially when some owners do not visit regularly and they want piece of mind whilst their apartment is empty.

I agree that we should get a community wide design and paint them to match the shutters. 

If we can get this raised at the AGM then it certainly gets my vote!

Michelle

I agree, any bars should be uniform and painted to match and I think it's reasonable for easily accessible windows to be secured in this way.

Hi all,

Did this issue get raised at the AGM?

Also as we were unable to attend, does anyone have any notes they could post on the forum as a rough guide to the main issues discussed?

Thanks

Michelle

Has anyone had any feedback re the bars/grills on ground floor apartments?

If so, have any quotes been submitted?

Interested to find out more on this.

Bars on windows did not get raised at the AGM. Hopefully it will get discussed today see below, if not I can raise with Gerardo when I am out in July.

Not sure this is the right thread but I will give some detail on the AGM.

After over 5 hours we had to finish the meeting at 1600.

Unfortunately time was wasted by people discussing minor amounts (3000 euros for AGM, EGM) in the accounts, rather than looking at how we could lower the big ticket items like cleaning, gardening, maintenance costs etc. (50k euros plus)

For example the 3k for AGM, EGM, this cost covers the renting of the room about 200 euros, printing and posting meeting notices and sending out any minutes, over 1000 euros for posting to all the countries of owners (legal requirement) and the cost of a tranlator on the day and translating the documents afterwards.

When I pointed out we are talking about less than 5 euros per apartment per annum for total meeting costs the person that raised the point gave in.

These things have to be put in perspective in a budget of 1,000,000 euros per annum. As we have a potential short fall in our budget we discussed raising the budget. It was agreed that we will leave it the same at present and try to trim costs.

Sandra from AEA has done a good job in getting quotes and talking to exisiting suppliers to lower their costs. This will be discussed at the management team meeting which takes place today.

A number of us are part of the management team and work with Gerardo and AEA on a about a monthly basis, I am unable to attend todays meeting but other members of the team will be there.

We also discussed debt and how these people are being pursued via the legal process.

Thanks for the update.  We really appreciate all your hard work speaking on behalf of the owners and working to reduce costs and see to repairs and general business.  We are very grateful to have someone who can see the bigger picture in that position.

Caroline and Neale

Absolutely agree with Caroline and Neale - many, many thanks to all those in the management committee for representing us all and providing us with updates.

Jan and Nigel