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16 Aug 2009 5:22 PM by not smooth Star rating. 241 forum posts Send private message

I apologise personally to anyone I have upset in responses and generally to anyone reading this thread.

The 'end of' refers to the ultimate problem ie unilateral action.

The last thing i want is for any arguement amongst ourselves.

I was just trying to keep to the point 'on this thread' which is specifically about 'change of management - Jardines' ie the unilateral action by some to try and change a service arrangement on CDA.

It is not about alleged poor management of the resort or PW or who does what and which company.

As far as I can see it is people asking why some felt the need and thought they had the authoirity to change some thing.

 




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16 Aug 2009 6:53 PM by Preside 5 Star rating. 27 forum posts Send private message

   
Hello everyone.
I will try to explain some points.
There will never be two installments to be paid.
Gardens (1-12) paid to Antonio Gil and pay no RPM.
RPM shipped documentation Antonio Gil, therefore you will never be paid for two administrators at a time.
The new administrator will control the costs above and shall ensure that stv-management, and Ciscompany work well in gardens. We will defend to the broken lights (take 6 months, etc.).



RPM will remain manager of level 1, since the level 1 is controlled by Alhama Golf Resort.


The orange at the moment can not elect a new manager, because there are still many houses that are owned Alhama Golf Resort.


I hope that I have cleared some doubts.

       
 




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16 Aug 2009 6:56 PM by Preside 5 Star rating. 27 forum posts Send private message

 
   
   
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16 Aug 2009 7:04 PM by Preside 5 Star rating. 27 forum posts Send private message

 
Hola a todos.
Voy a intentar explicar algunos puntos.
Nunca habrá dos cuotas a pagar.
Jardines (1-12) pagados a Antonio Gil y no pagan RPM.
RPM enviado documentación Antonio Gil, por lo tanto, usted nunca será pagado por los administradores de dos a la vez.
El nuevo administrador de control de los costes por encima y se asegurará de que STV-gestión, y así Ciscompany trabajo en los jardines. Vamos a defender a las luces rotas (tener en 6 meses, etc.)



RPM seguirá siendo director de nivel 1, desde el nivel 1 es el control de Alhama Golf Resort.


  Los naranjos de  momento no puede elegir a un nuevo administrador, porque todavía hay muchas casas que son propiedad de Alhama Golf Resort.


Espero haber aclarado algunas dudas.




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17 Aug 2009 2:59 PM by Marius Star rating in Lichfield, Jardines .... 91 forum posts Send private message

Question to the new management /   Pregunta para Presidente Jardin 5

Ok so whats happening with our current payments and direct debits to RPM..   are they automatically changed over to the new management company or do we have to cancel the direct debits and set up new ones..

No matter what the outcome I don't want to pay my money twice or that my money ends up in the wrong account and the new managament chasing me for 'missing' payments

 

¿Qué pasa tan bien con nuestros pagos corrientes y los adeudos directos de RPM .. se cambiará automáticamente a la nueva sociedad de gestión o tenemos que cancelar los adeudos directos y la creación de otros nuevos ..

No importa cuál sea el resultado no me quieren pagar mi dinero dos veces, o que mi dinero va a parar a la cuenta equivocada y la nueva Gestión persiguiendo para mí "desaparecidas" pagos



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Marius & Michelle Jardines 5 & Camposol


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19 Aug 2009 4:26 PM by Preside 5 Star rating. 27 forum posts Send private message


Gentlemen, if you study the statutes and the contract of RPM, you will see that the presidents of level 3 and level 2, may choose new administrator for levels 2 and 3. That's what we did.

RPM remains in level 1 (which controls Polaris).

But the new manager, controlled from levels 3 and 2 expenses RPM.
 
This has been done, because RPM does not meet our interests.

Everything is being done with our effort and the benefit of the County of Alhama.

Best regards.
> cambiar
   
 




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19 Aug 2009 8:55 PM by Preside 5 Star rating. 27 forum posts Send private message

Estimados propietarios, están entrando muchos correos en nuestra asociación, nuevaasociacioncondadodealhama@gmail.com

sobre todo de personas de habla inglesa, que al desconocer las leyes españolas se sienten algo pérdidos.

O puede que estén mal informados intencionadamente por algunos compañeros de su habla inglesa, que no entienden el esfuerzo que estamos haciendo, al luchar por nuestro resort.

 

Por ello, les colgamos las preguntas – tipo que más nos hacen y las respuestas a la misma.

 

Soy un propietario en Garden xxx  y he estado leyendo con gran preocupación en el sitio web de los ojos en España acerca de la decisión adoptada por el nivel 3 para despedir a los presidentes de RPM como administrador y nombrar a Antonio Gil. Tengo una serie de preguntas para usted --
 
1. ¿Estamos ahora en una disputa legal con RPM coste que, en última instancia nosotros como propietarios de dinero?
2. ¿Quién decidió nombrar a Antonio Gil y cuál es su calificación como administrador? ¿Cómo se sabe si será mejor que el RPM?
3. ¿Dónde están Polaris World en todo esto?
4. ¿Cómo puede RPM y A. Gil administrar distintas partes del complejo Condado?
 
No tengo ninguna intención de hacer el pago a cualquier nuevo administrador hasta que todo este claro y que nosotros, como propietarios y están bien asesorado legalmente en cuanto a cuál es la situación.                 

 

 

Estimado señor, muchas gracias por ponerse en contacto con nosotros.

 

Pasamos a responder sus preguntas.

 

1 .- El coste jurídica, caso de que lleguen a juicio no lo va a pagar la comunidad. RPM lo pagará o lo pagará Antonio Gil. En España los costes de un juicio los paga quien pierde. En este caso perderá RPM, pues Antonio Gil y los presidentes que le han apoyado han actuado de acuerdo a las leyes españolas.

 

2 .- A Antonio Gil, lo seleccionaron de entre los planes de estudio de 4 administradores posibles y en esta selección intervinieron incluso, como los presidentes de su jardín (el 4) y el 1. Que siguen estando a favor de RPM.

Su calificación como administrador es 12 años de experiencia, frente a ninguno de RPM.

Como jefe atiende a los propietarios, algo que RPM no ha hecho nunca, sólo en las juntas.

80 comunidades en su gestión y dos de ellas grandes.

Su amplia experiencia que es mejor que RPM. Y además nos degfenderá a nosotros (los propietarios) y no como hace un Polaris RPM.

Fíjese lo bien que funciona RPM, para enviar un acta de 16 folios, han necesitado casi tres meses. La ley les dice que han de hacerlo en 10 días.

3 .- Estamos hablando con PW, para que tome una decisión e impida llegar a los tribunales.

 

4 .- Los Naranjos administraria Rpm ,Antonio Gil  los jardines de Alhama.

 

5 .- Usted nunca pagará dos cuotas. Aunque haya dos administradores.  Es más Antonio Gil es más es más barato que RPM y ofrece mejores servicios, con horario de tarde... 

Espero haber sabido responder a  sus preguntas.

Reciba usted saludos cordiales.

gracias

 


 

Dear owners, are getting a lot of email in our partnership, nuevaasociacioncondadodealhama@gmail.com

 especially English-speaking people, unaware that the Spanish laws are somewhat lost. Or they may be intentionally misinformed by some of his colleagues spoke English, they do not understand the effort we are doing in fighting for our resort.

 

So I put the questions - the type that we do and the responses to it.

 

I am an owner in Garden xxx and I have been reading with great concern on the website of the eyes in Spain about the decision of the Level 3 to dismiss the presidents of RPM as an administrator and appoint Antonio Gil. I have a number of questions for you --

 

1. Are we now in a legal dispute with RPM costs that ultimately we as owners of money?

2. Who decided that Antonio Gil and what is his qualification as an administrator? How do you know if it will be better than RPM?

3. Where are Polaris World in all this?

4. How can RPM and A. Gil manage different parts of the county complex?

 

I have no intention to make payment for any new manager until everything is clear and that we, as owners and are well received legal advice as to what the situation.

 

Dear sir, thank you very much for contacting us.

 

We turn to answer questions.

 

1 .- The legal costs, if they reach trial is not going to pay the community. RPM will pay or will pay Antonio Gil. In Spain the cost of a trial are paid is lost. In this case you will lose RPM, as Antonio Gil and the presidents who have supported him had acted according to Spanish law.

 

2 .- A Antonio Gil, as selected from the curriculum of 4 administrators and possible even involved in this selection, as the chairs in your garden (4) and 1. Still in favor of RPM.

Your score is 12 years as administrator of experience compared to any RPM.

Serves as head of the owners, something that has never RPM, only on the boards.

80 communities in its management and two of them major.

His broad experience is better than RPM. And we degfenderá us (the owners) and not as a Polaris RPM.

Look how well that works RPM, to send a record of 16 folios, they still need almost three months. The law says they must do so within 10 days.

3 .- We talk with PW, for a decision and avoid reaching the courts.

 

4 .- Los Naranjos Rpm administered, Antonio Gil Gardens Alhama.

 

5 .- You will never pay two installments. Although there are two administrators. Antonio Gil is more is that RPM is cheaper and provides better services, with the afternoon ...

I hope I have managed to answer your questions.

Send your greetings.

 

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03 Sep 2009 4:49 PM by Preside 5 Star rating. 27 forum posts Send private message

A continuación se os informa de la web de Antonio Gil.

 

http://www.antoniogiladministrador.es




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