Criminal claim vs. Mirador and Palmera Properties.

CONGRATULATIONS Haydn & Judy on taking ownership of your new abode.  Were you the first to get keys or did other early birds pip you to the post?  It must be wonderful to actually be there and putting your own finishing touches to things.  We look forward to doing the same, but probably not til later in April.  So have the kettle on......we will come a knocking!

The updates and info you have posted since you have been in Spain have been really great, and it has been comforting to know that you both are 'on the spot' and quickly reporting developments back to us.  It is also good to know that the builder has pulled all stops out to get the place ready for you and that now his list of  to do's is quite short.  We really look forward to getting out there now.

Hasta luego

Terry 19b

JUst want to add our congrats as well.  And as always thanks for the detailed information!   Have you broken open the champagne?

Very best wishes and enjoy yourselves.

Linda and Brian

3b 

Hi all. A quick update.Security gates all fitted.Metalwork being repainted now. Pavements now being done.Shower block now tiled &coloured rendered.Small pool now coloured finish around outside,main pool next.Steel, small skips, & spare generators been lifted off site. The disappointment must be to the folks alongside the access passages ,but these are now being worked on.My main concern is how the surrounding areas are going to be left.?

We moved in last night ,because we had a sewerage problem for the 4th time on Valle del Este which was unbearable.It was more like squatting.No gas hence no hot water,wind howling under the doors & borrowed beds.All the white goods are working, most with 5year guarantee.Bathroom sanitary ware water tested &now sealed

Our A/Cunits all in ¢ral heating ( B M S ) Made decisions on security issueswith various firms i e locks changed, bedroom gates,french doors etc.Ordered mosquito screening ,T.V & dish (had good advice)

The kitchen utensils arrived--6 knives forks, spoons ,tea spoons.large plate, side plates,bowls,1 frying pan ,casserole dish, but cups & saucersare not included.Must dash ,need pillows.All the best. Haydn & Judy.

Hi Haydn & Judy, 

Once again thanks for the update. They seem to have made good progpress in the last week. It is great to hear you have moved in. We are wondering about a few things and it would be great to have your answers.

When you say the wind is howling under the doors does this mean that BMS have not rectified the gaps beneath the doors?

Are BMS now saying cups and saucers are not part of a dinner service for 6 people as specified in the list supplied by Michele?

Have the cleaners managed to removed the concrete and paint from indoor and outdoor tiles and capping slabs on solarium wall.

Looking forward to seeing you in the very near future.

Maura and Dave  17A

Hi All

A couple of issues have cropped up that I would obviously like to share with other Los Olivions. Piped gas or bottled gas ?, my sales brochure and the Parador Rep said that Los Olivos benefits from piped gas, in fact the term in the brochure is "gas water heater with piped gas", I have just learnt and need to clarify it is that there is no piped gas, the supply is via bottled gas !!.

I also understood that in the specification, we were getting solid wooden security doors like the rest of the HN site, but have been fitted with UPVC doors that aren't as secure as their wooden counterparts !!.

Any additional info would be gratefully received.

John & Pam

13B

We also expect the site to be supplied with mains gas, we are unaware of any storage areas for bottles

or external connection on the buildings.

Has anyone else been asked to pay IVA on the central heating installation, this comes to €960.00 and was unexpected.

PVC doors tend to be more resistant to attack than wooden ones as they are usually fitted with more hinges

and multipoint locking.

Haydn & Judy mention anti mosquito screens has anyone got any information on these.

We also hope the builders are not going to leave us  with the surrounding areas left like a bomb site a JCB applied to piles of earth and rubble

would be appreciated.

Sandra & David 22A

Hiagain. Thanks for kind comments. Have been asked a lot of questions so accept my apologies if i try to answer them here & not personally

  Dave & Ailsa---our personal figures

a)  builder-168300 E + vat11781 E = 180081 E less 53814,30 already paid = 126266,70 bankers draft at signing.

b )extras A/C ,C. H., & extra unit in kitchen under window =8525 E CASH at signing ( Sandra & David no 16 % )

c) Notary & Land Registry -2200 E

d)tax 1 %= 1680 E

e) solicitors fees 1 % 1680 E + 2 wills240 E + 2 nies120E = 2043 E + 16% vat = 2369,88 less already paid 1464,11 = 905,77

c + d +e= 4788,77 E paid prior to signing by Swift or similar to solicitor.

Linda & Rob---No lamps ,& lighting just hanging wires with sockets.

Pam & John--the piped gas is delayed for a few weeks,the bottles just a stopgap. The front doors are P V C & steel & very strong, much better than the wooden doors that i,ve seen.Had a peep in yours & apart from snaggig & cleaning looked ready.

Dave & Maura -hi -draught excluders to be put on to all in one go ,&definitely no cups & saucers.Cleaning 90%inside  ,outside less

Insurance--i believe that property is insured by builder until Communidad is formed.

It,s was very cold last night & today ,so thankfully the remote controls for the A / Ccame & the heat was very efficient  Had problems with lighting circuits, 2 spanish lads spent all day putting right -now perfect. Top arched window now in . T V & dish now in.T v a bit over the top ,dish in alcove patio outside main bedroom .Regarding sharing, 4 leads ,if you have Sky plus 2 leads are needed , so if you have 2 t.v.s you need the 4 leads.Pool seems almost ready for water.Now startingdoing the scroll concrete to shower block.Pavements & lamp posts still being done --what a difference in new ones & old colourwise.Made a stupid mistake buying a small chandelier for passageway, forgot it was 1ft lower than lounge ceiling,now heading it regularly,Judy threatening to buy me a crash helmet for birthday.

Ivan & Anne signed 2 days ago 21a,move in Friday .Sylvia Borrill signed & moves in shortly.

Finally the water feature is being all the way along the villa side with a large plot being cleared where i think the recreation area is going to be .All the best Haydn & Judy.

Haydn and Judy

Thanks very much for all for efforts trying to keep all of us happy with our questions!!  You have been such a valualbe source of information and thanks for that.

On a personnal note, John and I will be out sometime in April to sort out completion out etc - we are currently trying to sort out a snagging company to visit on our behalf as we didn't take Parador up on their offer of the owner's club, mainly due to the fact that we like to do most things ourselves.  Before we make our arrangements, we will definitely let you know so that we make sure we can meet up this time and introduce ourselves.

Good thing about the gas as John was whittering on about it last night!!  I now worried about the light fittings and how we go about getting someone to fit them.  I thought all lights etc were included but obviously not - this in itself is a problem as it took us 3 months to agree on lights when we moved house last time!!  What did you do about fitting?

It all seems to coming together at long last and both John and I (and Amy of course!) are looking forward to putting faces to names who for so long have been part of this ongoing saga. 

Looking forward to meeting everyone soon.

Take Care for now.

Pam (& John & Amy)

We have just got back from Spain, and I can see from the notice board that some of the anxieties are shared!!!  First, the site is going to be fantastic!!  I took a few photos but I don't know if people want them as it is so much down to individual apartments now.  HOwever, I was very concerned about the lights.  We turned down the offer of having a light package from Atlas as we insisted that lights were included.  They are listed on our contract, and we will take this up with Atlas now.  We will keep you informed.  OUr place was lovely and very nearly ready, but we are still concerned about the state of the site.  There is a lot to do in terms of landscaping and finishing the pool, and we were disappointed to see only a couple of builders on the site on Tuesday.  We are not happy about signing until we have a clearer idea about when facilities are going to be finished, and a clarification of what is included!!!

Best wishes, Linda   

we thought that the lights were included! I have it on documents from BMS that they are, we have emailed them to get this point clarified. Noel and I  are coming out on the 25th April until 2nd May, hopefully will complete on this visit if all ok, still need to find somewhere to stay for the week though! hope to meet some of you while we are there.

Noel & Debora

Janice & I expect to complete 25/26 April.  She can only stop for a week but my son, Leon, and I will be staying til 14 May so hope to get to meet a fair few of you.

Terry 19b

It's gone quiet on here......... does that mean that you are all basking in sunshine at Los Olivos and we are the only ones not to complete yet????  If that's the case, save us a space by the pool.....we'll be on our way soon!

Seriously now,  I sent my final payment out to the solicitor today so I am now officially broke....but excited and looking forward to getting out there, snags and all.  Is anyone else likely to be there for completion around 25th April >>>>?  If so, I hope we'll meet up.  We're already plotting to share a bottle or two with Noel & Debora. 

First things on my shopping list are a kettle and a corkscrew......

Terry 19b

John and I are hoping to come out the last week in April - most likely Thursday 26th until either the Tuedsay or Thursday the following week, depending on flights which I intend to book tomorrow.

We are just finalising a few things and then we will be packing our case and hope to meet whoever is out there at the same time - watch this space!!  As soon as I finalise the arrangements I will praps send a PM to Terry, if I may, and we can gatecrash your meeting with Noel and Deborah - I will bring a bottle!!  Praps Haydn & Jude will come too and anyone else...........

Pam 13b

Hi everyone

We are still here in the fens, trying to be patient, waiting for Medsea to contact us to tell us we can go over & complete. They went out to the site to inspect last week, but told us still not ready. So doing another inspection on the 4th April.

BMS tells us to just let them know when we will be going out & they will ensure apartment finished & I have explained it must be ready for Medsea to do snagging.

We are considering going out anyway next month in the hope of completing or to see what is going on.

Linda & Rob

Hi again .After all the good weather ,it,s raining today , & had thunder & lightening last night. Work still going on at a fast pace .Pavements at about 10 yds  per day. Yesterday mattresses put in all appts with white goods in a lot.Shower bases in around both pools plus an oblong base with stainless steel rails cemented in .i,m so thick i can,t think what it,s for .The 2 access ways should be finished thisweek (Pete & Sylvie will thank god ) There are now 4 appts occupied ( Sylvia &Carl &wife,who arrived late Sun night the latest ).From the activity I think a lot more will sign over the next week.

Linda & Brian --the insurance was contents only, as i believe tne buildings are the responsibily of the builder until the Communidad is formed.

Loraine & Dave ---Hi, had many a great curry at Sam,s near the church at traffic lights.Look forward to meeting you. & everybody as you arrive, please call in

We have bought light fittings from Vera bathroom fittigs from Commercial Vera inc. mirrors with lights &small shelves,lamps all over the place,beds on special offer (free electric slatts ) frim Macnights,bedheads ,bed settee curtains,t.v.cabinet, patio furniture, from Homes & Beyond in Garrucha.Our lounge furniture is on its way from U.K..I cant remember if i,ve already said but we sold all the in house furniture.

There is still a lot of work going on around the "Lagoon" &yesterday a bulldozer was working inside it.

that,s it for now ,just leaving the internet shop in Los Gallardos to buy some fruit from the weekly market.

P & J will do that , &reply by P M.in next 2 days. Regards Haydn & Judy.

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Linda & Rob, it sounds like you are in a bit of a catch 22 situation there.  Your agent won't say it's ready until all the work is finsihed, and BMS will get on and do the work once they know you are ready to complete!  I think you might be right to go out there and see for yourself.

Terry 19b

Hola,

It's getting exciting now. So many going out in April to complete and congratulations to all the new residents.  We are going over on the 21st April to complete sometime during that week and staying until 12th May.  So really looking forward to meeting you all and of course a big thanks again to Judy and Haydn for the news and detailed update today.  Linda and Rob, it hard to be patient but once you get the go ahead from Medsea things will happen very quickly. We were told by Iberian that their next inspection was 3rd April, but we got a letter from them last Thursday asking us to make arrangements to come out  to complete.

Hasta luego

Maura 17A

Hi to you all.

I am off to L.Olivos in an hour or so as all i keep hearing from Medsea is the apartment is not ready as yet. I have made a number of visits over the last few months and followed the progress from everybody.

I am visiting the solicitor on Thursday and via BMS would like to visit L.Olivos the same day.

Are any of our neighbours about for the next couple of days ?

My wife is joining me as she has not visited the site since October last year and has never been inside. Exciting times !!!!!!

Love to meet a few people.

Kind regards

Drew & Karen No 10a

Hi All Los Os,

I wish all residents a good future and healthy life in the sun. cant wait for the pool party.

I have had my apartment inspected, and reported to BMS my views, as yet they have not responded. could anyone help with a question, in upper apartments, has the main family bathroom  a bath or shower.

Don 19A