UK looks after the rest of the world

UK is run by a bunch of idiotic brain-dead morons whose incompetence knows no bounds. Self-centred arrogant, ignorant, foolish, thick skinned and egotistic is a mild summary of the inept Oxbridge educated  clowns that make up the Cameron clan.

The UK should be one of the richest nations in the world and its government should not have to rely on money donated to charities and lotteries to pay for the needy, elderly and the sick, whilst they give away billions in foreign aid and invite all to free facilities in UK.

Last year £8.3bn was given away in foreign aid – the highest donation of all G8 countries and 2013 will increase as a result of Cameron’s pledge. Does it matter that the £500million given to Egypt to fight corruption just disappeared?

Iceland, a country officially wealthier than the UK and which refuses to re-pay £2.3 billion owed to Britain in the credit crunch, receives funding for at least three projects including promoting tourism in a national park.

Countries including China, Russia, Brazil, and Barbados are benefiting from funds intended to help the world’s poorest, despite a pledge for it to go only to the neediest.

 Brazil, which will spend £9 billion on the Olympics in 2016, received more than £10 million in European aid for schemes including £660,000 spent on the social integration of women living in fishing communities and £120,000 on the 'integration of indigenous city dwellers’.

Besides this obvious drain on the British taxpayers money, this crazy gang are thinking of regulating the free health and welfare system for non-EU visitors – What?

Can I get free healthcare in Spain? No! Can I get housing allowance? Nope! Can I get job seekers allowance? No! Can I get a council house? Nope! Can I get any tax credits in Spain? No!

Could an EU national from any other 'member' country get all the above in UK?  Yes he can………… European Union?  I think not.

So, while the fat cats of Westminster look forward to a large rise in salary and UK pensioners may  get a rise of £2.80 per week, let’s hope the people of Turkey enjoy the television channel that we paid for with our hard-earned

Bonaparte once said “In politics, stupidity is not a handicap.”  One quote I believe that is most appropriate is “Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.” 

I think you need to understand that what is described as Foreign Aid is nothing of the sort. It is not a charitable donation, it is foreign bribery. When Britain gives foreign aid then directly or indirectly it has strings attached. It is ’scratch my back and I will scratch yours’ trade deals.

For instance a country will receive foreign aid in return for their purchasing services or goods (not necessarily British). By a happy coincidence politicians, again directly or indirectly, are then beneficiaries of payback largesse in one form or another. It is a form of money laundering. Using British taxes to procure investment in companies in which the elite have shares.

Another example that might makes things clear. U.S Senators who voted to attack Syria received 83 per cent more campaign money from military contractors than those lawmakers voting no.

Unfortunately far too many people are politically unsophisticated, too naïve and too trusting.

It is a well accepted fact that politicians are an underhand, dishonest and despicable collection of spongers and since records began in 1667 dozens of UK M.P.s have been imprisoned for dishonesty with the last and current governments upholding this proud British tradition.

I can wholly accept your explanation of the corrupt reasons for the continued practise of ‘providing aid’ to countries that do not need it either directly or through the EU ‘glee club’. Would these benevolent individuals give their own monthly salary to fund the study of ‘Why people laugh at drunken Estonian jugglers’, when their own roof needs repairing? – No of course not, so why give our money away to these stupid causes while our own old folk die of hypothermia and malnutrition?

Just before Christmas 296 M.P.s voted against  ‘Investigating the use of Food Banks and UK Hunger’. This is typical of the callous heartless bunch of lowlife that infest the halls of Westminster........I’m OK Jack  **** you!

Here is a link that shows the list of the slugs that should not be representing a sewage farm, never mind decent hardworking folk who put and keep them where they are.

http://agirlcalledjack.com/2013/12/19/the-296-mps-who-voted-against-investigating-food-banks-use-and-uk-hunger-the-list/

We don’t need Europe – it doesn’t benefit us in business, it just costs us. We can still trade with the world, including Europe in or out. The only reason we are in is, as Mike points out, to benefit the Crows who control it.

The route to parliament and its privileges has been cleverly created to exclude the charitable and the well-meaning. Men and women of true ability, the altruistic and passionately patriotic are discouraged. Those high-minded people of principle are repelled at the thought of entering these dens of thieves and murderers.

I curse myself for losing it. I saw once the numbers of MPs who heavily invested in the war-related industries before they nodded through the declaration of war against Germany.  That is how Godless and repellent they are.  These parliamentarians and the bankers were actually praying for a war the effect of which created riches beyond their dreams. It is life - and death.  They think we are mugs.  Perhaps they are right.

We still don't much like Argentina, for sure Argentina don't like us....So why then did we send £2,000,000 (2million) in aid to them in 2012 which is still an ongoing aid.

As Mike points out in his post Baz there will be a hidden agenda that benefits certain politicians and their corrupt connections that prompted the buffoons in Halitosis Hall to give money to an enemy who could use it to fund the next attack on the Faulkland Islands. It beggars belief that UK voters will still turn out in their droves to elect a new member to the life of legalised crime or keep an existing seedy work-shy individual in the life-style that they would never, ever aspire to by their own efforts. The arrogance of the government and the gullibility of the electorate is the catalyst that created a system that is and has been out of control for decades and unless change is made, the situation will only continue to spiral downwards. An Oxbridge degree doesn't mean that the holder is clever it simply means he/she has a good memory and to be a good liar a good memory is essential.

I would love to know what changes should be made that would benifit 90% or more of the population. What is clear is that changes are needed and soon. Capitalisum should work better than communisum but so far it is only the silver spoon brigade that benifits from it.

Once  peasant always one seems to be the norm.

How I wish I could play football well, you don't need to go to oxbridge to be rich then.

Complacency, apathy, failure to engage and be proactive to strive for solutions, effect change and reform in any organised fashion, all play their part in this sorry saga.

At the risk of sounding like Citizen Smith, the only way to put the great back into Britain is to show Cameron and his 40 thieves (including his hired Liberal gang of thugs) that enough is enough.  Evidence Mrs. Thatcher and her damnable “Poll Tax” – enough people said ‘No’ and stuck to their guns.

Result – the Poll Tax was dropped and Thatch was deposed.

The courts could not cope with the cases (punishment in a court of law is a typical tyrants response to those who question their authority) and as a result the government were taken by surprise when the proletariat would not back down. What kind of developed country will imprison innocent people who can’t pay an unexpected imposed tax yet a company that swindles others out of huge sums of money they tell us is a civil matter and it’s up to the victims to take any action to try to retrieve their losses

Here’s a little tale about the poll tax - We had a very keen young apprentice who suddenly started being late for work and it transpired that he and his flat-mates had been summons to court for non-payment of the community charge. It appears there were queues into the court buildings every morning and as there were so many defendants, the backlog was huge and the only way to deal with it was for the court ushers to issue numbers to the queues.

Our enterprising young chap and his cohabitees arrived at the courts early and were issued with a low number. They would wait in line until a queue built up and then offer the low number tickets for a fee to those further up the line who wished to get the ordeal over with quickly.

Don’t know who was worse – Thatcher and her band of heavies or our apprentice and his mates!

There has to be way to oust political chancers who hijack nations for their own ends. Voting changes nothing. The only difference between parties is how their titles are spelled. Vot for Crooks, Robbers, Thieves, Chancers, Frauds…

The message of the Socialist Workers Party was ‘Don’t Vote: It Only Encourages them. Under the present phoney and theatrical voting system the politicians always win - the people always lose: heads you win, tails I lose.

The one thing politicians fear more than anything else is People Power fuelled by Mass Disobedience. It topples governments; People Power, mass disobedience vaporised the USSR. It is the political parties Achilles Heal; they cannot handle it.

The prisons are bursting, courts are struggling with a two-year backlog, tax collectors are so overwhelmed they are reduced to throwing mud (pressure-letters) at the wall and hoping some of it sticks.

If a movement organised mass refusal to pay the TV licence fee for instance and people refused to pay the fines. The only protest movement that would topple these regimes is mass disobedience. It would have to be organised anonymously online as organisers would be targeted.

Sadly it's all very well saying what should be done when it comes to election times, then we go and vote the crook in that says they will fix everything, but as we have all known for years as soon as they are in they renegade on almost everything said by coming up with excuse's like "Crikey it's a lot worse then we first thought, so vote us back in AGAIN.. and that gives us enough time to fix it"  thats the reason to do nothing..Not lets mentioning the instant for them pay rises though.   If we don't vote we keep the same rubbish in power, if we vote the "Other lot" back, didn't we vote them out because they were useless anyway.

To go back to the sending of billions in aid this has been going on for years, of late only its come more to the front because of our countries being skint.

It wont ever stop regardless of what the powers to be tell us, what is happening now to all the aid giving countries is wrong, someone has to have the balls to say "Enough is enough" and stop it...Know anyone?...Anyone you know got the balls?

A good measure of this is the EU, when the likes of cameron tells "We cant do that because we face a fine from the EU"...So what!  don't pay the fine! What will the EU do? Nothing..Nothing at all, how can you make a country pay a fine, thats just another excuse to cover up his yellow backbone.

As mentioned about the TV licence, I have always said if everyone stopped paying it, and then still didn't pay any fine....What would happen?

It was struggle to watch the news about the recent floods and sea damage to our coast line the other night when they showed an East coast cliff top house about to fall in the sea and up for sale for £25,000 which had a guarantee to who ever bought it got another plot of land from the council with permission to build a house on it, the crunch came when said that this house was...ONE MILE from the cliff face a few years back, it beggars belief that we can send money to Africa for a farmer to put crops in his land,  then sit back to watch them fail,   when we dont even stop our own land from getting washed away.

If this carries on are we doomed or what?

Aren’t people sick of extreme approaches that batter our economy? I for one want a more BALANCED effective self correcting regulatory mechanism (with transparency) to counter the scale of greed and manipulative ploys that the Banking conglomerates and the like appear to have demonstrated over this past decade.

Instead of mass disobedience why not use people power to educate of the realities and demand balanced essential regulatory reform via the likes of respected independent campaign organisations such as AVAAZ? AVAAZ have been remarkably proactive in their non political approach.

There are organisations in place such as European Banking Authority (EBA), World Justice Project, and the like who we should be demanding do the job they were established for, namely to regulate, effectively monitor, accurately report findings (identify manipulative hidden malpractice), and ensure that the rule of law is enforced etc.

Sorry to shift the emphasis from the UK but a case in point is how the European Union and our own political leaders have stood by and watched the emerging failures relating to consumer rights across member states (Spain) and done nothing (as yet) of any great significance, and have even stipulated they have no power to intervene given the current treaty arrangements. Well we should be demanding CHANGE to the current treaty arrangements and insist that the EBA do their job in regulating the Banking institutions where they fail to address consumer rights etc.

It’s incredulous in this day and age that they can turn a blind eye to such widespread corrupt failures that have affected thousands upon thousands of innocent people, especially when you learn that perfectly good laws (LEY 57/68 a case in point) or higher level regulatory authorities are already in place. Why are we ALL not shouting from the rafters to demand that these regulatory organisations be made accountable and do their job?

It all comes down to a willingness by everyday folk to be educated to the realities (but hopefully in language that they can relate to!) and a willingness to stand by one another via organised and well balanced people power.

We have to support one another in causes that do not just immediately affect ourselves and look to the wider picture. It's important to recognise that corruption and self interest on the scale that we have witnessed this past decade eats away at civilised society.

But please no more destructive radical approaches that are as bad as the organisations/conglomerates that we are desperately trying to reform.

Sorry for the rant.........

Back to the focus on the UK... I don't know about the UK looking after the rest of the world.....we sure as heck need to reflect on our own mismanagement of the economy over the last 50 years.

This level of debt has been efficiently dealt with in the past and is being dealt with now. I have already mentioned some of them. BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China).

When Saddam Hussein and Colonel Gaddafi said they were following the paths of others and ditching the petro-dollar to market their oil reserves in the dinar or alternative means of trade, bartering, you know what happened. Likewise Syria.

Some can’t be dealt with militarily; others, Iceland, Hungary, Ukraine. Belarus, Russia, Iran, China….. The Icelandic economy is small so it can be ditched. The latter will be dealt with by the NATO alliance destabilising their governments.

U.S. money is being invested in those intent on overthrowing Syrian President Assad. Some of those fighters are Chechen. They are being trained, supplied and financed by the U.S. …. their CIA’s fingerprints are all over the Volgograd bombings. Putin is in the cross-hairs.

Many countries have thrown the bankers out, it is what the Second world War was all about. Let us hope that it doesn’t ignite the Third World War but I fear it will. At my age I won’t be around much longer but I think today’s youngsters face just as an uncertain future as did the youngsters in the early 1900s and 1930s.

http://www.debtbombshell.com/

I don't see the merit of the unassailably strong leaders in russia, china and elsewhere, just because their interests  happen to be at odds with powerful banks etc. Those leaders are not worthy of admiration, they don't represent the interests of their own people. 

Closer to home (Europe), we need regulatory banking reforms and accurate monitoring and compliance systems in place to protect the interests of consumers and a trusted and effective system of justice to protect consumers across European member states, so long as we remain within the European Union.

As we have witnessed first hand within this forum, at present there are major gaps that place the innocent consumer at great risk, so long as corruption, protectionist self interests in all its compromising forms, and failure to enforce the timely rule of law (for all manner of reasons) are not consistently and effectively addressed from within individual  member states' systems of justice.

There needs to be far greater protection for consumers who purchase properties across member states in Europe, which has left great distrust in the effectiveness and reliability of the current European "model". Until adequate reforms to protect consumers are put in place then it becomes essential to educate the general public to these major failures and risks and demand that the European Commission and Parliament advise how and when they plan to tackle these issues, not to mention what interim measures are in place to counter inconsistent and questionable legal rulings and lack of compensation.

So much for your checks and balances: the entire system including the 'policing' of it is rotten to the core.  You are proposing more of the same?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2535616/Watchdog-knew-Co-op-bank-chief-bank-clerk-criminal-conviction-rubber-stamped-appointment-anyway.html

I totally agree with Woodbug, I don't know how true it is but yesterday I was told that people over here from other european countries can claim child allowance for the children still living in their home country. How can that be, especially when someone who worked and paid there taxes for over 40 years in this country. Then that person wants to live their retirement in Spain, are refused winter allowance.

It is getting totally bonkers here, and i will be glad when i leave and move to Spain next year. I know they have their problems also, but the advantages far out weigh the disadvantages.

There are no such things as open, honest and impartial watchdogs, committees, authorities or regulatory bodies, call them what you will, that will protect the average population. Every one of them is corrupt and is created by MPs for MPs so once again it is the usual wheels within wheels. How many times have you seen a ‘bank bad boy’ dragged in front of a committee of ‘watchdogs’ usually consisting of overfed, smug and not very bright ’members’ who ask silly questions in an amateur dramatic manner?

The ‘offender’ knows that he will be punished worst ways up, with dismissal, a huge severance payment and a platinum pension for life. Sir Liam Donaldson has admitted that each public enquiry costs a minimum of £20m……. a fair slice of that going to the selected MP’s on top of their new £74k p/a salary, plus expenses of up to £144,000 for MPs in London and MPs from outside London claiming up to £137,000 per annum – add this to the wages of a few committees or department salaries (£64 Billion of Taxpayers money is being spent by newly organised public bodies) .……. Why bother getting a job? Don’t forget that an MP also gets a ‘redundancy package’ when he/she gets kicked out – if a private organization is obliged to make an individual redundant, they have to show that they do not intend to replace the victim, so how does that work then for parliament?

The whole system of banking and politics is corrupt beyond words and we the tax payer put up with it without a whimper. The system is run for greedy shareholders who just want money and don’t care one jot about the poor, less fortunate souls who are unable to pay their utility bills due the avarice of these despicable types who want big returns on shares, then run crying to the ‘government’ when things go wrong, demanding that they get compensation because their gamble didn’t come good. Can I have a refund from the tax payer if my bet in the 2.30 at Wincanton doesn’t win?

Britain already has the answer to combat and change the system that would force the lardy MPs who only wake up once every 4 years at election time to ‘digitus extractus! The UK is unique in that it has a society or league against almost everything – Brits are brilliant at forming little bands of objectors but their weakness is in lack of cohesion to each other. So get together as one voice and show this band of leeches that in weakness there is strength.

I totally agree with Woodbug, I don't know how true it is but yesterday I was told that people over here from other european countries can claim child allowance for the children still living in their home country. How can that be, especially when someone who worked and paid there taxes for over 40 years in this country. Then that person wants to live their retirement in Spain, are refused winter allowance.

100per cent true, I was told this by a YOUNG Polish lad who came here almost with the first influx a good few years ago, and to make it worse he was told he could claim for his kids back home in Poland by an English person in the department he went to on his first visit here to work, so he did claim and got the money for his kids back home in Poland, he told me he had 3 kids, I have no idea if he did have any, or the 3 kids.

I do know for a fact from someone in a department of the benefits office that no checks on the "Existence" of these kids was ever made.

The head of the Bank of Poland, much like the head of the Bank of England here, also years ago wanted to know why his clearing department had cleared something like 7 to 8 million of English £50 notes in a short space of time, the Poles were sending the £50 notes back home in letters, or with friends driving back and forth.

No I don't want more of the same, absolutely not, but neither do I want an unknown alternative (a vacuum to be abused by those with equal lack of comprehension of following the law of unintended consequence, that has ability to do great harm to our economy and way of life)  without proper planning and intellectual forethought, and an attempt to collectively and in a balanced and educated way look to best practice elsewhere in the world, to seek out those with proven independent intellectual capacity to provide effective workable alternatives to reform/transform the status quo.

You appear to have little faith in reforming the status quo but how much of that is down to a lack of detailed analysis or a willingness to strive for workable practical alternatives and a means to effectively educate and organise eg. why not use trusted non political campaign organisations to stamp out corruption and make watchdogs, regulatory bodies ACCOUNTABLE, in an organised and "trusted" manner. If these regulatory bodies are in place then why don't we (the general public) demand that they do the job they were intended to do instead of just moaning that that they are not honest and impartial? Start with educating the general public of the failings (in simple language that they will comprehend, not complex intellectual form that means little to the majority) and let the Government and politicians know that we are all aware of the failings, via effective campaigns demanding greater accountability.

Is anyone to your knowledge making any attempt to bring together in any high level "non political" form these instances that demonstrate the scale of mismanagement that currently exists? Do we have any truly independent role models that can be trusted in this regard?