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Hello
I have just had an e-mail with the subject heading "County Association of Alhama". As we only completed a few days ago, I'm not sure what this letter is about. From the wording it seems to refer to a association looking at addressing the community fees.
Can anyone let me know what this is about and who it is from. If it helps, I have pasted it below.
Thanks
Phil
Dear owners: From February 20 (day of reunion in the community), a group of people, we have created partnerships County Alhama. Since then the number of people who contact us, send us suggestions, etc, has not stopped growing.
Within this partnership has been formed Alhama County commission which coordinates and reports on the steps taken.
1 .- We have delivered a letter of 4 folios to Polaris, where he designed a set of requests.
2 .- We are dealing with the administrator to conduct a restructuring of services and costs. This will enable our community to pay fees are much lower than initially planned on February 20.
In short you will have news of the letter to Polaris and the progress made in negotiations with the Administrator.
For every time we have more strength to Polaris and the Administrator, to defend our common interests, we need the number of people contacting us is growing and that every time we get together.
If you have any suggestions, we are at your disposal.
Meanwhile until the next shipment of news, are you, a cordial greeting.
Murcia, March 15th of 2009
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We've just had the same e-mail. Any info gratefully received. Agree that there is aneed to challenge but who has appointed this 'association' on our behalf and what is their expectation in terms of renumeration etc?
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Gary & Angela
....roll on retirement & 52 weeks a year in the sun!!!!!
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Got the same email this afternoon, strange it didn't say who the email was sent to as there were no names in the 'To' part of the email address.
Thought it was from Sergio, the Venezualen guy, who we registered our email address with as he was looking into these matters but his email address is asocondadodealhama@yahoo.com very similar so not sure.
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Hi
Not sure if the same email has gone directly to Hams email address.
Could it be a con ? trying, at some point to get money of us unsuspecting owners.
We certainly havr NOT given any autherisation to set up a committee on our behalf
Jan & Ham
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We've not had the email yet but I wondered if it was maybe some of the owners residents that have sent it as the English reads like they have used a translate programme.
I'm hoping it is something to do with the spanish owners are use to dealing with this kind of residence issues as it will be much easier for them to understand the system and challenge some of the thinks in the budget.
Does it say somewhere else they are looking for money - I couldn't see what you were refering to in the first posting that might be a con?
Pamela
Naranjos 4 and edinburgh
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Me again
I gave my email address to Sergio but have not recieved this email so I do not think it is off him unless one comes through later
Jan
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We have also received the same e-mail. Doesn't actually ask for anything, just a bit of an introduction, doesn't make any sense, not sure who they are. Gave our address to Sergio just this week so might be him? As long as no-one is asking for money, that's the main thing!
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i am guessing its sergio.i did say a couple of weeks ago that it is good news we have so many spaniards on condado because they will not over pay for any services and will fight the suggested community fees on our behalf if overpriced..it looks like it has started .i am certainly sending them my support .
im guessing they got the email addies from polaris .guys this is spain-lol-different rules get used to it.
i have emailed the call centre at polaris and will let you know what they say about who is behind it.
This message was last edited by georgeh on 3/15/2009. This message was last edited by georgeh on 3/15/2009.
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We've had this e-mail as well and also gave our e-mail address to sergio. Hope it is him, if it is it looks like he's on a mission already.
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We are keen to support anything that will make the community fees lower and didn't mean to throw a spanner in the works with the renumeration comment.
We haven't given our e-mail addy to Sergio so don't know how we got the e-mail. If it's him all well and good as everything suggests he's a good guy to have in our corner. Just a bit confused right now..........
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I read this thread with interest earlier and then went to see Sergio, and i can inform you it did not come from him.
as mentioned earlier his e-mail is asocondadodealhama@yahoo.com
Any mail from him would bear his name at the bottom.
Mick
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Hi Mick
Thanks for that. We did send Sergio an email asking if he was responsible.
So if this wasn't him how have these people got our email addresses?
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Hi
Since starting this thread, it seems everyone is still none the wiser where the e-mail come from. As I only completed on Thursday, the only people that has my details would be Polaris and the Notory. I personally can't see PW giving out details to someone who is fighting their fees and the Notory would have no interest in this.
I would still be interested in the answer to this as I guess we all would.
Phil
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got this reply from them as an answer to an email i sent them-to my mind they are a group of spanish residents who are fighting the cause on our behalf and they DONT want paying for their services.i am trying to get some names from them and as i say have emailed polaris where obviously a spy in the camp passed the emails on(probably cost a tequila-lol).
i think we should support them as i have always said n theis board our best friends to fight our corner in spain is the spanish.so please lend them your support.what have you to lose?
Would you please explain to his fellow Englishmen that we are a group of Spanish Gardens of Alhama owners, nonprofit.
We want to Polaris that give us the forum and the golf course.
We want to pay dues in smaller communities.
I say this because in the direction http://www.eyeonspain.com/ViewDevNo.aspx?dev=C139 paragraph County Association of Alhama
some of you believe that it is losing money
Serian tan amables de explicar a sus compañeros ingleses que somos un grupo de españoles propietarios en jardines de Alhama, sin animo de lucro.
Queremos conseguir que Polaris nos entregue lo antes posible el foro y el campo de golf.
Queremos conseguir pagar cuotas de comunidad más pequeñas.
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i have now had a further email from them re my heated pool suggestion.at least some one thinks its a good idea!obviously the english isnt the best but how many english speak as good spanish as they speak english?not sure who her is but im guessing victoria
It will keep you informed of everything.
Now we need many e-mails to her lobbying Polaris, if you know the new owners tell us your address and also keeps you informed about them.
So far the requests immediate Polaris focus on construction of the forum as soon as possible, the golf course and golf club house. But it is a good suggestion.
Lease you Annexes II and III of the Statutes of urban entity that tomorrow pasdaré them all. These statutes are harmful to us and we must respond.
Regards
dear sirs
you have my full support and thanks for your time
please keep me informed.
i do have a suggestion re the pool.i sugest a small pump to run water through a rubber hose around the pool(attached to the fence for safety) the water heats in the sun and then comes back into the pool.any thoughts?
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Just received a further email.
This one contains a word document to partition Murcia council to adopt the external grassed area maintainance, irrigation and cleaning.
It appears that PW somehow forgot to mention to everyone that in order for this to happen owners have to partition the Town Hall by 20th March. If sucessful this would wipe out 94.716 euro for cleaning services and 154,280 euro on irrigation.
I do remember that our solicitor told us at completion that the outer area would be maintained by Murcia council. It appears that unlike in the UK where after completion of a building projct the council automatically adopt the roads etc. In Spain you have to request this to happen.
Email extract
"Dear owners, attachments you send are:
1 .- Statute of the entity urban conservation Alhama County.
2 .- Submission to the statutes of the urban entity.
The deadline for submissions to those statutes come ending March 20 of 2009.
However, nobody had informed us of their existence. Tuesday was the last 10 days, we learned that there were, then we must deal with them and a model case.
Because of them and particularly in Annexes II and III, outlines the relationship of assets to be maintained and preserved by the community of owners and the municipality, it is highly desirable that all of us present this model claims.
For you to make an idea in the current budget we are trying to change to low, is dedicated to cleaning up the outer ring € 94,716, and the consumption of irrigation water to the outer ring € 154,280.
It seems that the outer ring has been received by the council as public land, so those costs would not impact on our community, if included in the statutes of the Condado de Alhama urban entity.
Any person who wishes to make representations to those statutes can do to deliver this model of argument, filled with your personal information and signed and delivered in any window of Public Administration, Office of the civilian government and any other public agency.
The city of Alhama de Murcia, is obliged to allow his claim that the label always check-in at a government agency of your city proceeds before 20 mraz of 2009.
Not valid for shipments andalusia Fax No Town Hall.
Also, as an association so that we have on record, the number of claims have been filed, it would be once sent us an email forward in telling us: Name, landlord No xxx has appeared on today written allegations to the status of the entity Urbanistica Condado de Alhama.
For English-speaking people residing abroad. In the offices of the consulate / embassy Spanish, or send it by postal mail in the system of official confirmation of transmission, ie, a document filled with the contents of the consignment, sealed and rioja rioja devulven and bearing the date is valid for the purpose of entry. But that service can not be active in some countries, they should consult the appropriate office.
Awaiting your cooperation for the benefit of all, you will receive our most cordial greetings.
español."
This message was last edited by stonephil on 3/17/2009.
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How are we going to get something to the town hall by March 20th? if someone has the time could they look into this, ie what we have to do/sign and where to send it to?
Dan
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Also received this e-mail at one minute past midnight last night. Obviously, someone is putting the time & effort into what should have been done by the present administrators of development (RPM). I am assuming that this is an independent group of Spanish residents who have taken up the challenge of getting the finances organisd and apportioned properly. God only knows what RPM have been doing while they have sat in the seat and sanctioned every charge imaginable that Polaris have handed over. What property management company does not question individual aspects a budget it is taking on ? - it appears RPM do not.
From what I can see here, all of us that are party to these communications need to print off the word document (Spanish version), sign it with our own individual location adresses on Condado and get it sent recorded delivery to Murcia council offices in Spain to ensure that as many people as possible are letting them know that we know we should not be paying for certain aspects of the Condado community fees.
Anyone know the correct address that we should be using ??
Regards,
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Will
( & Jackie if it's not controversial !! ).
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im guessing these guys are on the case.believe me if the spaniars dont want to pay for something they wont.polaris are pulling a fast one and victoria and rpm should have fought this.we should throw them out asap.
im cancelling my comm charge dd till this is sorted.dont trust rpm one but after reading this-its scandalous
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