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I am sorry that some people find my posts offensive but the people that have used my services and know me understand that I post the truth and sometimes it is not very pleasant or it isn´t what people want to hear
The main objective of my last post was really to explain that it doesn´t matter how much it is debated, until a case reaches Court based, on the grounds of the lack of facilities nothing is going to change
Mr Unhappy as normal your posts is well informed and balanced but the feedback I give is from real people who, yes have issues with the lack of facilities but do genuinely like and enjoy the development, accepting that this is no short or even medium term investment.
This is a bit like RODA again where people argued about the lack of a hotel but as already stated the vast majority of people that I have dealt with have not been investors that have purchased multiple properties based on the promises of some estate agent.
The problem with people not completing is not unique to Corvera, you only have to look at The United Golf site, San Catentano, Golf La Finca, Hacienda Del Alamo and many more, to see that people just cannot necessarily afford or want to complete given the downturn of the Spanish property market. United and Hacienda have the commercial facility in place but just cannot find businesses willing to move in. Bit like the old Field of Dream days, build it and they will come, unfortunately times have changed
JDY you clearly do belong to a group as your are not completing, have legal representation and by, owning multiple properties must be an investor. To answer your question and the response that I will give you is already on another thread of this forum, I would not invest my own money buying a property on this site, or nay golf development or even on a new off plan property. I would buy, because of the value, a resale property or one to develop. I would absolutely buy in the Corvera area because I love the surroundings and ease of travel, and I have a lawyer currently trying to find the owners of a couple of derelict properties that I have seen
What I am not sure is why this means that I shouldn´t be quoting on the forum as I believe that I have actually done a great deal , through my comments, to help people that have invested on this development
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Roy
Two facts:
You represent a business which has a vested interest in having people complete so you can make money from them.
You have not invested in Corvera Golf and even if you came to the area you would rather buy a derelict property than do so.
Steve
Two facts for you:
Negotiation is not the only way forward.
The law does not oblige you to treat one type of customer honestly while permitting you to mislead another type.
PS Steve, Just live the dream please don't spend so much time trying to sell it to everyone else. We are starting from different places you and I. Like Roy you appear determined to label people, in your case 'Lifestylers' v Investors (i.e. Good v Evil) so you can speak for one and against the other. I don't recognise or belong to any group other than the human race. My case is unique as is everyone else's on this forum. To assume anything else when you know so little is not very sensible is it?
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Jim 2 facts
I have advised some people not to complete based on an initial inspection on some properties on and I remain a pain in the butt to Corvera
I would not invest, as per my comments on various areason this forum, in any new property on ANY golf development, as I don´t play golf and I want a detached property with my own land to live in, not to rent or an an investment, no reflection on this development
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Hi Roy
1. Of course you have advised people 'not to complete based on an initial inspection', you are a snagger, that's your job. As for being a 'pain in the butt to Corvera' that is opinion not a fact.
2. You can buy a house on Covera Golf with your own land even if you do not play golf and do not want to rent. You won't, many have. Leave the forum to them.
Yours are commercial postings.
Jim
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and trying to sell Corvera and its possibilities to people instead of doing my level best to slag-off the developer so that more people feel negative about their dream and also try to pull out is a definate sin?
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regarding negociation with the calidona to try to reach a satisfactory conclusion for all parties , i guess i am in a worse situation than you corvera guys at the moment as we are on roda phase 4 and looking at imminent completion and witha premium price tag .
in my negociations with calidona which focus on the lack of facalaties which in my opinion should be a lot further advanced when you are on the later phases afterall there is only one phase left on roda ( now mothballed ) . calidona steadfastly refuse to commit to even building the facalaties let alone a start date !! yet i am still expected to pay premium prices as if the facalaties existed ? why would anyone want to pay for something that does not exist and that the develpoer will not even commit to building , i appreciate some people may have more faith in calidona delivering the product as per sales literature than i have but i think it worth bearing in mind that they have not even completed any resort yet and in rodas case mostly in the boom times .
i would reiterate that in my case calidona are steadfastly refusing to commit to building facalaties , i hope this does not turn out to be the case at corvara once they have got you guys to swap to earlier phases .
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Steve
You and Roy have the same agenda which is getting people to complete because it suits you. It is clear that your posts should always be read therefore with that in mind.
I on the other hand don't mind whether people complete or they don't- whatever makes them happy. I am happy with you completing. You are not happy with me and others not completing. Why don't you just let this drop?
By all means wax lyrical about Corvera. That is your right but please stop 'wagging your finger' at those who have chosen not to complete. With all due respect it's their decison and their business, not yours.
Jim
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JDY I agree with your commenst and all I am trying to say is wouldn´t it me more sensible, rather than all of the pro and cons debate, with people supporting and critising the development, to wait to see what the result is of the first Court action, based on the lack of promised facilities, reaches the Courts for judgement
The same situation with any class action at RODA
As I tried to explain the cases based on the 18 months terms have been won by Calidona including the appeal and sureky after the next cases, and I am not certain if anybody has any dates for these cases, people would be able to make an informed decision
Also sensible to keep people informed what is actually happening onsite withou, every time somebody says anything, people jumping on the comments with their own particular spin or is my view too simple
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Mr Inspectahome
Your presense on this forum is somewhat rather strange, I find a lot of your posts rather offensive
This is a free forum for all people from all walks of life, as soon as anyone has an opinion that does not suit you commercially you come up with an absolute load of cods wallop and pretend to be totally innocent
In my eyes your posts are not even worthy of a reply but on my last post regarding Corvera you state you are weary of someone`s signiture highlighting snagging and you say they are only an estate agents in Pillar
Let me tell you they are a true proffessional snagging company with massive experience and when completing on my apartment they where brilliant so I would just like to let everyone on Corvera know that Mr Inspectahome is not the only company who carries out snagging
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Always strange when somebody new pops up on the forum and one of the first things they seem to want to do it attack me or my business
My posts do not aim to be offensive just people don´t like me telling the truth
As far as snagging goes people of course have the right to vote with their feet, I am certainly the longest established snagging company with some of the best references that you can see on any forum, across lots of different communities.
Putting the comments it in a signature on your mail is a little odd and if imy posts aren´t worthy of a response then why bother,
Thera are actually 5 different organisations providing snagging services onsite, you pays your money and you take your choice, same as on Polaris and many other sites
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Yes and you pay for your signature
I find you`re rather ignorant to importance and wont reply to any of your posts sorry
This message was last edited by Johnmac on 11/04/2010. This message was last edited by Johnmac on 12/04/2010.
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What an odd comment ut just to clarify really for the benefit of other poster and the owenrs of this forum
On this forum there is no charge for posting, no cahrge for signatures and I have contributed with advice and professional articles and advice for almost 5 years
in that 5 years I have never paid this forum a single euro for any post, lead or business that has been generated via the forum
Recently, approx 1 month ago I actually booked and paid for soem banner advertising on the home page, my first ever paid advertising on this site
Frankly John I find your statement insulting to the people that opertate this forum and what did your last statement mean, it makes no sense
By the way if anybody would like me to PM them a list of other people providing snagging services I would be happy to do this, not arrogance but confidence in the quality of my services
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Hi Steve
Good to hear. I hope you will therefore confine yourself to comments about how much you are enjoying your property and how great Corvera is. It is not really necessary to comment on whether others should complete or what your view of Calidona is. It would be courtesy to keep these opinions to yourself please and get on and live your dream.
I don't see anybody knocking you for completing so perhaps you should treat others with equal respect regarding their decision even if you don't understand or agree with them.
Jim
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Once again Roy you seem to be following your favourite pattern of putting together posts that you know are going to antagonise people and then when you get the bites that you know are going to come you spend the next 3-5 posts to say what a great job you are doing and how many happy customers you have blah blah blah....
you bring nothing to the table on this website thread apart from cyncial self-promotion and you continue to exploit what is a very difficult and contentious situation for your own gain. Have you ever once thought about the people that are in serious stress both financial and emotional and the impact that your selfish and often totally inaccurate or one sided comments might have on them? Me thinks not.
There are definitely differences of opinion on here and that is to be expected given the circumstances and the ongoing problems that exist with the development but at least the vast majoirty of posters on here have a vested interest in their posts and do so with respect for the opposing views. i.e those that have completed, those that have not, those that are seeking legal advice and those that are waiting for their properties to be built. I dont believe that you fit into any of these categories but you still seem to think that just because you have snagged a few apartments that you are the expert on all things Corvera. You also now seem to have gained some expert legal knowledge and are dolling out your opinion on that as well!... are there any other special skills/qualifications that you have that you wish to share with us?
i for one am getting fed up with your snidey little comments that seem creep into your posts with no other reason than to stir up emotions, stick to your snagging and whatever little gems of information you have for people trying to buy linen or lamp shades but leave your posionous little barbs aimed at those "evil investors" or non-completors out. Its not necessary and it makes you sound like a complete try hard pratt.
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I think that it is odd how it always seems to be the same people that objective to my posts and I am hoping that the majority find the contents useful
I want to try to summarise my last messages as the posting were meant to try to help with at least some idea of what´s happening onsite and the feelings of the people that have completed
Previoulsy the forum had lots of information and comments regarding the pending legal action against Corvera based on the contracts which I beliveve was dismissed by the Courts and I believe that the original lawyer acting for the group of 100+ buyers withdrew
The next actions I believe are based on the lack of facilities and all I said was that perhaps it would be a sensible to have a debate, after the first case had actually been through the Courts, as people can debate this as much as they like but at the end the Courts will decide, not an unreasonable suggestion.
I am certain that it would be more usefull, if somebody has Court dates, to provide information when it is likely to reach the Courts
Moving on I haven´t actually snagged a few apartments but more than one third of all of the completions so far
When selecting a snagging company for Corvera make sure that the service provides a sufficent number of visits and , included the initial cost, to clear the defects, as 2 visits only, provided by most other organisations, is not sufficent, as certain oither people then charge extra after 2 vists or restrict the period of snagging to 3 months, know what I mean John
Johnmac people know that my company are genuine, that my only business is snagging it is a real pity that your posts have deteriated into personal insults when I actually answer your questions,
_______________________ Roy Howitt
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