ARM BANDS

If they are only costing you 800 euro that good, at la torre over 2500 properties and 6 bands per property plus spare bands for people that lose them, i think they charged 25 euro if you lost one.

The more you order the cheaper they work out so la Torre would no doubt get a good deal, the 25 euros replacement is to deter owners selling them off to outsiders and make you look after them, sensible as we found some tenants passing them on to all the family locally.

whichever way you look at it. cost per apartment is minimal even if only used for a year.

Ace.

Ace

Can you delete the words from that post so people don;t get ideas please.

I absolutely think the wrist bands are a good idea but need to be consistently enforced. In terms of raising additional revenue  I wonder if there could be an option to charge an annual fee to the villa and townhouse owners of say 250 euros or so to utlise the pools and be allocated a number of armbands?

Hi jbutt

Townhouses already have their own Communities and pools but few of them decided to utilise the wristbands system this year.

With regard to villas, you make a very sensible suggestion, the problem will always be the way Roda was set up with an Entidad then various Communities being responsible for their internal affairs.

I have suggested that if we had a resort wide pool system all paid up owners may be permitted to use any pools and villa owners could be asked to contribute.

This has not received much support as some Communities wish to keep their facilities for their owners and are not keen for others to use their pools.

Some villa owners have already approached Communities to use their pools but as villas were intended to put in their own pools and do not pay Community fees it would be difficult to get everyone to contribute and then monitor its use.

Policing of use can never be absolute without spending large amounts of money to patrol more regularly but at least we are getting there.

Only realistic way would be to dissolve the Entidad and form a ManCommunidad incorporating all the Communities together, which has never been encouraged at Roda.

Worth suggesting your idea to the Entidad Board though 

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Phase 3a apartments (Community P21) already share their pools with a number of other houses who contribute to the pool and garden maintenance as the houses were built backing right onto their pools with no room to install personal pools.

This seems to work and well and why it could not be implemented around the rest of the resort is beyond me.

I think the divide between the communities because of the pools is ruining the atmosphere of the resort.We stayed with friends in Condado and I must say the atmosphere was fantastic.There were no hard and fast set rules about pool use and everything ran smoothly.They ran aqua aerobic classes in some of the pools and everyone from the different jardines got to know eachother.We had an amazing time not because of the resort itself but because of the friendly atmosphere and the people we got to know.

I would imagine some villa owners would be very interested in using the communal pools.I'm sure those who put in their own pools are probably content but for those who didn't I'm sure they would be delighted to be able to avail of the facilities.I know for a fact that many (if not all )villa buyers were told when buying off plan that they would have use of the pools around them and that putting a pool in your own garden was therefore optional.Obviously this wasn't how it turned out and I'm sure there are many villa owners who chose not to and now due to the times we are in can't afford to put one in.

I can understand that people don't want their pool area overrun by large crowds but I doubt this would happen.Roda is a relatively quiet resort as it is.I understand people wanting to protect what they are paying for but I think people take it too far at times.I am aware of a family inviting kids from another community over  to play as their children had become friendly with them and another apartment reporting them and the children were left in a very distressed state after being appoached by security.

I know there is no easy answer to this problem but I think it is certainly worth listening to suggestions and considering them.Perhaps the wristbands are the only way to go but I think we should keep an open mind and encourage suggestions from as many people as possible.

Surely it would be easier to monitor the wrist bands if it was used throughout the resort with cooperation throughout the whole resort.Then all you are watching out for are outsiders cheekily camping out by the pools and I suppose you could also extend it to those who are not paying their fees.

Totally agree cat

But the suggestions have to be made to the Entidad Board either at an AGM or by notification and to each Community as the urbanisation, as you cannot really call it a resort unlike others is not run by a management company or developer but by the owners themselves made up of Communities and Entidad.

You can see the problem, it's complicated to say the least.

Of course the system would operate better if it ran throughout but you cannot force another Community to follow suit and the Entidad does not wish to lead or be involved.

It works that way at La Torre and possibly Condado, I believe all owners are entitled to use all pools if paid up but they must wear wristbands and it is strictly monitored by employing individuals solely to patrol.

Change at Roda can only come from what a majority of owners want, simple democracy but how to acheive it?

Hughman,

I'd say this will never be resolved because you can't please all of the people all of the time!It's a shame though.Condado didn't have a wristband system when we were there and as far as I know they still don't.Certainly it works well when there is no divide and therefore no tensions.Difference there I guess is that was how it was set up from day one but it would be hard,if not impossible to reverse the set-up on Roda now I would imagine.

We own a townhouse on phase 2 and I know that people from the villa's come and use our pool.  Why cant they just divide the villa's up to the closest pools and make them pay an annual charge to use the pools.  Simple, easy and it may even bring down our community charges slightly!!!!

Just a thought.

Paul

Another idea! Fill the hotel footings with water and we have one big communal pool, charge general public and we may get some of our money back!

Paul

Now Ace

That is a positive idea, trouble is as explained to cat, ideas have to out before the Entidad then all Community Presidents to get things up and running.

It has taken 3 years to persuade more Communities to use wristbands and security monitoring.

What it needs, is people with good ideas to thoroughly research them and present them to fellow owners, as stated Roda is run by the owners not an outside manager.

I have to confess to not understanding RFID but think I see the potential but bear in mind wristbands started here 3 years ago in one Community so are still not in general use.

Paul

Perhaps if the hole in the ground was owned by a company with commercial ideas and willing to invest a large internal beach club may be a good idea,

As previously stated re villas, there is no overall body in Roda who would think of the simple thing like asking villa owners to contribute.

The developer made some massive mistakes when setting up what is a great resort and whilst they are still partly involved with certain things and while the political set up remains unchanged in Roda, it is almost impossible to bring the resort together.

Each Community President is doing his/her best for their owners and the Entidad Board still has debtors sitting on it making decisions on your behalf.

At the risk of repitition, all positive ideas nedd to be presented to the Entidad Board and Community AGM

It is good to discuss them on here but this forum has no influence on Roda

i am sure all owners want the samething ie a completed resort with all the facalaties ... however in reality roda is made up of different phases and different designs of apartments / townhouses etc and people bought on different phases at different price points for there own reasons , villa buyers knew there was no pool , the fincas around phase 3 have no pool and no room to install one  (known at time of purchase ) phase 3 pools and grounds were designed around the number of apartments and occupants ..... in our case we purchased on phase 4 and paid a premium over other phases because of far more space in the garden and pool areas ... i cannot see why people using facalaties attatched to the property they purchased would cause tension or a divide afterall thats what they bought ...... and if people paid a higher price for what they considered better facalaties then it would seem only fair that this should be respected .....  surly the question is why would people want to use facalaties in other phases ? presumably only because its to crowded or onother phase would appear to have superior facalaties .

i for one want to see roda move forward and become the resort it is capable of being but on a resort of this size not really not really sure about a one brush fits all approach.

I completely respect that you want to protect what you paid for Debbie.

However it is not true to say that villa owners knew there was no pool.Now perhaps for those buying in the later phases like yourself perhaps you knew exactly what you were paying for but I know for a FACT some villa owners were told they would have the use of the pools around them.They were pointed out to them on the plans and told that the pool in their own garden was an optional extra and really didn't need to have one with the countless pools in the resort.

As far as I can see this is probably the single biggest problem when it comes to the pools.I would imagine if all villas had their own pools they would be quite content sitting by their private pool.I feel sorry for those who were missold to just like the rest of us who were supposed to have a hotel,etc.I doubt if this can be resolved because I am sure there will be divided opinion.You can see it here on this forum that while some think it makes sense to bring everyone together others understandably want to protect what they paid for.It's just having experienced a resort where no such divide exists the atmosphere and sense of community was wonderful.Some jardines had no pools while others had and also individual villas but yet everyone could use pools within the resort and there was no conflict,no fuss,no litter or any other unpleasantries in the pools or by the pools!

By the way Ace great idea!I'm sure this would lead to a more efficient system.Well worth looking into!