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02 Jun 2008 7:52 PM by noeldeb Star rating in Wendover Bucks. 28 forum posts Send private message

We STRONGLY oppose the use of Ramon or any other security guard!! Being in electronic security for over 20 years security guards have no deterrent what so ever at the best they are a glorified receiver for post, etc. If criminals want to break in then all they do is wait until Ramon has done a patrol and then break in. What you need is a 24h deterrent barking dogs and grills are excellent we have invested in an alarm system which signals us back home if set off we can then phone in and turn the alarm bells off. 

What research has been undertaken into regulations for security personnel?  what other organisations are available rather than a one-man-band, that deems himself as Security! as break-ins only happened when he was so called patrolling the area. everyone needs to take responsibility for their own security and not be complacent, leaving doors/windows open at the rear of their property when they are sat at the front, and ensuring they have secured the doors/windows & shutters when going out, even if it is for a short while. 

In my experience it does not matter how much security and safe guards you have someone will still get broken into, if they are determind to break in, so paying someone is in our view is a waste of money.



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02 Jun 2008 8:18 PM by Bristolboy Star rating in Bristol, south west .... 37 forum posts Send private message

I have been following the comments about security with interest, all agree its important however has anyone any idea how the outcome will finally be decided and what critera is being used to make the decision and who has deemed themselves the final dicision maker for us all?. asking for comments is one thing but how are the positives or negatives being used.

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03 Jun 2008 3:46 PM by Kyanda Star rating in Spain. 56 forum posts Send private message

 

This message is on behalf of the volunteer group (Los Olivos)

 First of all, we would like to say that we feel this thread is totally inappropriate, as it refers to the security of Los Olivos, which can be read by ‘anyone’, but to add balance to previous comments raised we feel we need to respond. However this will be our only response, anyone wishing to discuss this further can pm us.

 We would like to outline what has happened in the past.
A volunteer committee was formed after talking with a president from another community on HN who said it helped getting things done.The committee was made up of volunteers who have been living here for about 12 months, additionally we invited a newcomer to join the committee, but he declined & instead preferred to launch a personal attack on the committee. Constructive ideas we feel would have been preferred rather than destructive.

 Security was one of our main issues as about 10 owners have been making regular payments to Ramon, which we believe has contributed to no break ins at night.We held a meeting with Marinasol & invited Ramon & a number of owners to this meeting. Ramon put forward a proposal for a vastly improved level of security. A lower fee was negotiated, which all those there present agreed was a good proposal for the community, to be put forward for the AGM to be voted upon.

 The majority of the permanent residents who have been living here for about 12 months feel security is an important issue as we constantly appear to be under scrutiny from people going past in cars, motorbikes & walkers who have no reason to be going around Los Olivos. It is also a concern that a large number of low paid workers (mostly foreign nationals) have recently been laid off work in the construction industry, which could ultimately lead to an increase in the number of break-ins.

 We fully understand people have a choice as to whether they vote for or against this proposal & respect people’s decisions & we would be happy to discuss the finer details by way of a pm.

We would ask that which ever way you choose to vote that you ensure that you complete the proxy form that will be sent to you from Marinasol if you are unable to attend the AGM on the 28th July.

 We have been sending out minutes of meetings we have recently held to the 30 plus e-mail addresses we hold & apologise to the people we do not have e-mails addresses for, however if you care to pm us with details of your e-mail address we will forward the minutes to you.

 Volunteer committee group (Los Olivos)

 




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03 Jun 2008 8:49 PM by noeldeb Star rating in Wendover Bucks. 28 forum posts Send private message

What about telling us who the volunteer's are? and telling us their email addresses so we can pm if need to.


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04 Jun 2008 2:05 PM by hayjude Star rating in marple,cheshire& n. .... 54 forum posts Send private message

Hi. Reply to request on last post. I am one of the volunteer committee. My name is Haydn & have in the past tried to be helpful on this forum --under the name of Hayjude.Please P.M. if anybody feels the need to do so .
Regards Haydn.

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12 Jun 2008 2:33 PM by gooders Star rating. 6 forum posts Send private message

I have not been on this forum for some time, as i only used it in the past to keep track of the progress of the development .
 Recently i have been hearing about some things that have been placed  on the forum so decided to take a look, and would just like to say to springsteen to get his facts straight when he refers to a break in prior to xmas.
We may not have had grills fitted but we did have security bolts on all sliding  doors and windows  alarms were fitted to windows and doors and we had a dog . I do not regard this as little security as he put it , in fact if it had not been widely known to all and sundry that the community would be deserted and they had all the time in the world, then i believe it would never have happened.


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15 Jun 2008 10:13 PM by susanj Star rating. 1 forum posts Send private message

I have never written on this forum before but reading the messages about security I thought I must.
Could anyone tell me who they paid when living in the UK for security? Or have we all bought a place in the Bronx instead of the sun.
If about 10 residents feel insecure living in Spain and wish to pay Ramon to drive around now and again in his car so be it, but why do we all have to pay him as cheap as they say he is, I DO NOT want to pay him 1 Euro an hour. Or do they feel as they pay we are getting security we DO NOT want for nothing!
As for people we dont know walking passed usually walking their dogs, when sitting in my lounge in the UK people I dont know walk past all of the time none have robbed me yet.
Also it has been said Ramon could be used as an interpreter should we be unfortunate to need one, he can speak little English!
168 Euro's a year not hell of alot of money but money we would prefer to spend on flights for us to visit .
Noeldeb seem to have alot of experience in security maybe we should listen to them.
Also I agree with Kyanda this is probably not the be right place to air our veiws but is the only way as we are never in LO at the same time.
On the whole I beleive the committee are doing a grand job on all of our behalves and would like to thank them for there time and trouble they put in. Lets not all fall out over Ramon and beg to differ in opinions and enjoy our lovely place in the sun.


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