Tenant in need of advice - owner selling

Hi Folks

I am going to try and use any means of communication I can to give you updates hence this note

Things take a while to move but we are getting there, below are small sections of meetings I have had with Taray, and our support company ,heading towards our residents meeting with Taray and getting all our legal things completed to make us a community, Please read and it may give you thought for our Taray meeting 

Meeting with Helder Beltran Taray manager 30^th January

Points of discussion

Snagging problems—Contact to be made to Helder via Office (+34)968193969

Lists of snags from individuals given Taray 

 TV Communal aerials (Information only)

The Spanish aerial -contact TARAY

The Sky aerial conversion -contact Micromesh 650716767 (Scott)

Your individual aerial -contact your installer

 Habitation cert. –to be issued later

 Containers being removed from waste ground - Ongoing

 RENFE (Spanish rail) moving earth at night in waste ground area timescale unknown

 Pool maint and upkeep Tarays till the end of February, Safety equipment our responsibility, and we accepted the grass surround when we bought our houses, as it was in the plans as a green area, but give some thought to getting this done if there is money in the pot at year end

 Post boxes –Awaiting issue of post code from Centro Madrid (Mid year)

 Buildings at street end and use of times etc, Information with the town hall in Torre Pacheco

 Waste ground in front of houses facing railway, with Taray for discussion as to clean up flattening etc Clarification of exact area to be asked for by the President

 Meeting with Laura Hellin Adfisur Consultant 1^st February

Points of discussion

Minutes of the constituent’s meeting- The official minutes are very formal and they must be entered in the Official book this is supplied by the Land Registrar –Waiting for their contact, in the meantime we are putting together one that will be distributed to all

 Confirmation the consultants have all addresses of constituents, date for the start of payments (from the 1^st of Feb but maybe collected in the second quarter at 60Euro per quarter, to be discussed)

 Setting up of communal bank account and CIF number

 More in depth look at budget and possible savings – Insurance, pool servicing etc. Ongoing

 Swimming pool- Safety equipment (Poles/Rings) Our responsibilty

Timer for lighting when we get mains connection Our responsibilty

Check of pool rules and agreement for minutes

Painting of depth markings

Feed back from constituents given to consultant

Subjects for our support company and myself to have at pre Taray meeting I.E. Waste ground clearance, Commitment to residents, and possible date for constituents meeting

 This is an abbreviated update to give you all just an idea of what’s gone on since the meeting, the proper minutes are being produced

Colin

hi colin

certainly looks as if you have been busy - a lot of issues to be dealt with. thanks for the information on the satellite dish.

 

vincent

Cheers Colin,
Thanks for the info.

Martin & Louise

well done that has certanly made things  clear keep up the good work

It is an extremely good thing that Colin is taking this presidency so seriously, and also that the poor buggar is not allowing the nay-sayers to get him down.

** EDITED ** Foul language will not be tolerated on these forums

For the yeah-sayers:
let's bang on and get the community up and running, blissfully ignoring the bleatings of the few. With a single voice we have a great deal more power to engage with Taray and with the Balsicas/Torre Pacheco señorones.

Bridges and Council developments adjacent to the site:
If owners are as flabbergasted and outraged at the lack of parkland and the introduction of a bridge (which eliminated waiting times at the level crossing and greatly reduced the likelihood of an accident or fatality) as they ceaslessly tell me, then I suggest you stop bumping your gums and propose a class action legal case against Taray for misselling your property. We all put money in a pot and consult a lawyer to see if he/she feels we might have a case. If it could potentially pump a few grand into our bank accounts, I would be happy to contribute.

The Clique (click is the american spelling):
 Do tell what the clique do and why they merit the term.

The children in the pool debate:
I was once a child, and spent the vast majority of family holidays pool-bound. Therefore I am happy to see children using the pool whenever they like. As an adult, however, I can understand the reluctance for grown-ups who enjoy swimming to have cliques of pre-pubescent  minions dive-bombing and tipping into the pool every last inflatable object their ever-indulgent keepers have ever bought them. The pool is small - far too small, and smaller than Taray advertised - and parents and grandparents alike must therefore control their little angels to allow big ogres like me to take a dip without being buffeted by sugar-fuelled brats. Mass games and large inflatables are for the great big pool called the Mar Menor, which is a mere 15 minutes away by car, or for the somewhat larger Balsicas community pool located next to the school and accessible by all - guiris included.

And that is my ten cents' worth.

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Very Good i like it someone with balls and a bit of agression im over soon hope your there

yossarian_f 

Who are you? I agree with some of your points especially about Colin.

With regards to the children you need to be left at home and let the happy people of this world get on with their holiday. I have 3 children (non of which are over indulged or over sugared) that are going to be playing in the pool with me and if you would like to discuss the matter further then by all means knock on at No.15. If the Mar Menor is only 15min away then it wouln't take you long to get there so we can all have some fun. If the pool is not big enough for you (big ogres) then you answered the question again (Mar Menor) will be perfect, the only problem is if you are that big it might mean greenpeace getting involved to have you removed when you get beached.  

Our children have all been brought up to be well behaved and well mannered. They have also been brought up to consider other peoples' wishes. It is a pity some alduts can't be as well behaved instead of wanting it all their way. Surely with tolerance and compromise a happy medium can be reached without the need for wanting to place a total ban on inflatables.

That's my Dollars worth.

Dave

Yes who are you?

My grandchildren are only 5 and 7, so I doubt very much that they will be dive bombing etc, they can still barely swim!  So they definitely won't be in the pool on their own!

You have obviously got a problem with children, or is it that your children (if you have any) are the sugar-fuelled children that you speak of.  Or perhaps they are one of the pre-pubescent minions that you complain of!

 

Get a grip.

Jan

 

Oh dear - two over-sensitive (grand)parents. Here's a suggestion: read my post again and keep a clear head to allow the thought process to work accordingly.

I was criticizing brats in general (not necessarily yours, who I am sure could use their darling little mouths to store butter) and suggesting that  too many inflatables would be a kill-joy for those people that prefer their swims obstacle free. Again, I was making no comment on your particular little angels. I don't  know them, so I couldn't comment on their particular behaviour, could I?  If they want to dip in the pool and take the odd ball with them, I have no problem with that : that was covered, I had hoped, in my first sentence - the bit about having been a child. Your reactions, however, put me in mind of the old adage: the lady doth protest too much.

Individually, since you made PERSONAL comments, here are your answers:

Howy:

I should be left at home, eh? For daring to suggest that kids ( not necessarily yours) should be supervised ACTIVELY. Sorry to impose. The happy people comment:  beneath my contempt.  Your suggestion about my support for a total ban on inflatable obects: I didn't say that. I am simply in support of parents and/or grandparents using their judgement about the number and size of inflatable obects in a pool so small. I use the Mar Menor from time to time, and I will continue to do so. I use the village pool, too. You should try it when your kids want to float on big bits of plastic, and if they only want to cool off and splash about, then take them to our communal pool by all means. This is my point. Try to see it. I am sure your kids are two-thumbs-up, and that you are an admirable parent.

Sporthouse (Jan):

You hacked me off. Get a grip of what? And why? Were my suggestions so offensive? Children under control? What a hellish idea, eh? If I OBVIOUSLY have no children, then why offer alternatives? I don't get your logic? Surely, if my kids were the problem, then I would simply have a quiet word with myself, perhaps making a mental note not to let my own children piss me off by filling the tiny pool full of enormous inflatables....wait....then why would I  bug my neighbours about my own kids. Hmm. I am thinking that you haven't thought this through. So, if there are grips to be gotten, I suggest you get yours before advising me to get one of my own.

You want to be constructive, I will engage with you - until that point you can rattle your little sabre as much as Howy rattles his, and I will not rise for it. Read carefully, consider and respond. Jerk your knees on your own time.

 

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Oh, I nearly forgot: who are YOU?

You really seem to have a problem. 

My grandchildren are far from angels and I am definitely not an over-sensitive tgrandparent.

I really suggest in future that you keep your comments to yourself and jerk your own knees.

 

By the way if you want to know who I am read the profile.

You haven't bothered to complete yours so how do we know who you are.  Perhaps it should be made compulsory to do - message there for the EOS team.

 

You render me speechless.  You want me to keep my comments to myself AND make knee jerk reactions? Do you actually think about what you write, or does it just flow from the abyss?


You may not be oversensitive about your grandchildren, but you seem oversensitive about something - or are you just bored?

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People! People!

This is your President speaking, hoping to calm this thing down (Although very entertaining) below are the pool rules which were voted on and will be sent to you with the open version of the minutes, as you can see it does not stop kids swimming etc, but what it does rely heavily on is common sense and good PARENTAL guidance

 

FOURTH. APPROVAL OF SWIMMING-POOL RULES

                The following swimming-pool rules were unanimously passed:

1. Please, shower before entering the pool. Ensure you turn off shower after use.
2. Children under 12 yrs. of age must be accompanied by an adult whilst in the pool, or pool area.
3. You are allowed to use inflatables, always in consideration to others.
4. Pets are not allowed in the pool or pool area.
5. No smoking in the pool, or pool area.
6. Small children should wear conventional swimwear, Babies to wear water proof nappies.
7. The pool will be open from 7am to 10pm, 12 months of the year. But, please, respect your neighbours at all times (early in the morning, siesta time and night time)
8. Glass or crockery of any description will NOT be allowed in the pool area.
9. Ball games, Frisbees, etc. are NOT allowed in the pool or pool area.
10. This is your pool, please, leave it as you would expect to find it.
11. Please, make sure that, when entering or exiting the pool area, the gate is locked.
12. Music is not allowed. Only headphones.
13. It is the responsibility of owners that guests and visitors have a copy of these rules.

The use of this pool and pool area is entirely at your own risk. Safety is the responsibility of everyone.

 

It was unanimously passed to have a sign with these rules in English, Spanish and Drawings, to have the depth marks, two life rings and two hook poles (1 of each on each side) and a notice board for the community.

So there you have it, now I am going back to the real work ---getting us up and running as a community

Colin

Hi folks

 

i agree with colin  people need to step back, take a breathe and put the situation in perspective rather than launching personal attacks on others. The community is for all of us to enjouy lets notlose sight of that and enjoy it.

 

vincent

Hi

I have just read the comments regarding the pool and i feel they are rules that most pools adopt.(not usually open so late so bonus for us)

Colin you mentioned we should have a copy of the rules for any guests in our home. could you please advise how i obtain one.

I wouls just also like to thank you for your commintment and hard work. If i lived there full time i would love to help out with such matters. As it stands i do not, so my husband and i appreciate your work.

Thanks nadine