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30 Jun 2008 12:00 AM by Darren_Michelle Star rating. 167 forum posts Send private message

Thought I'd start this thread for anyone wanting their money back yet still hope to keep their dream alive and move to Spain, paticularly to Jumilla.

Early next week I am up their again with another Developer who alledgedly has all the licences in place to build, in fact already has some key ready propeties so if anyone is interested in looking at another property in the area, please drop me a PM and I'll send you details when I have them. I'm making sure all is legitimate before I pass anything on though....I want to see the licences for myself.

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30 Jun 2008 4:59 PM by Linda Needham Star rating in Jumilla,Spain. 302 forum posts Send private message

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Darren is there a golf course being built with tis development.

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30 Jun 2008 5:06 PM by Darren_Michelle Star rating. 167 forum posts Send private message

Good question Linda, 

At present I don't think it is planned however apparently the developer is watching the situation with SJ very closely and if things don't go ahead, they have purchase rights on land to develop a course to suppliment the area. I will find out and post back.

Question back to you Linda, do you know how many other urbs have been givena green light for the area. I've heard 4 have been signed off but a futher 8-10 are in with the ayuntamiento for approval but looks unlikely many will be passed.

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30 Jun 2008 7:29 PM by Linda Needham Star rating in Jumilla,Spain. 302 forum posts Send private message

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Have not checked for a while so will get an update if I can and post.  I dont think it necessary that the facilities are there on site  as they will naturally follow in time as people see opportunity.  There are a lot of facilities in Jumilla to serve communities until that happens. I do think the golf course is essential though in order to attract holiday makers which is what the community needs..  Will get back on this subject asap.

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30 Jun 2008 7:35 PM by TonyMal Star rating in Oxfordshire. 1090 forum posts Send private message

Hi Darren and Linda,
I looked into an other off plan development at Jumilla back in 2006 being sold by Pegasus. 
Interseting idea though. Do you think what happened at Playa golf could happen at SADM, were other developers take up options on part of the site?
All the best to you both and I hope you have not got mega hangovers
Tony


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30 Jun 2008 8:54 PM by Darren_Michelle Star rating. 167 forum posts Send private message

I have the mother of all hangovers, like linda, didnt stop until the sun came up so today has been a wipe out but woth every moment

Difference with Playa Golf and SADM is stage of development. Whereby PG has 'stock' - key ready properties therefore a tangible value, SADM has  not and is down to pure business potential should another developer take interest in options. With the numbers of sales to date, I'd be doubtful it is seen as a viable option.

I know Pegasus is definately one of the urbs under offer. 

Linda, be good to find out who else has permission and at what stage they are and the other applicants. I'll be up probably next monday morning and would be great to meet up with you and David again to catch up.

regards

Darren




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01 Jul 2008 10:39 AM by Linda Needham Star rating in Jumilla,Spain. 302 forum posts Send private message

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AV = Avance Plan parcial  PP= Plan Parcial  CU=Cédula Urbanización PU= Proyecto Urbanización

NOMBRE URBANIZACIÓN ESTADO TRAMITACIÓN SUPERFICIE M2 Nº VIVIENDAS AÑO Registro Nº Registro Campo Golf
Las Lomas de Jumilla AV PP no aprobado 946.149 1.977 2.005 4026 -
Montenatura Golf Resort PP aprobado inicialmente 5.403.117 10.450 2.005 4027 2
Santa Ana del Monte Jumilla-Golf PP aprobado finalmente, PU sin aprobar 7.094.661 15.134 2.005 4235 2
Residencial Los Viñedos Sport & Spa AV PP no aprobado 992.108 1.943 2.005 4350 -
Residencial Alfonso XIII AV PP no aprobado 512.000 961 2.005 4389 -
Omblancas Wine Resort AV PP no aprobado 1.732.008 2.517 2.005 4411 -
Fontanar de La Zarza AV PP no aprobado 222.213 322 2.005 5239 -
Carchesol Jumilla Golf AV aprobado 26-02-07   CU aprobada 26-11-07 3.030.056 4.000 2.005 7041 1
El Valle de Jumilla PP aprobado inicialmente 3.243.954 8.000 2.005 7371 1
O Castelo AV PP no aprobado 1.146.265 1.607 2.005 9462 -
La Tosquilla AV PP no aprobado 235.049 718 2.005 9876 -
Los Viñedos AV PP no aprobado 439.106 1.467 2.005 9876  
Los Olivos AV PP no aprobado 659.298 868 2.005 10083 -
El Ardal AV PP no aprobado 1.056.312 1.936 2.005 10084 -
Torre del Rico AV aprobado, han presentado CU 686.144 1.430 2.005 10348 -
Jumilla Golf Resort AV aprobado, han presentado CU 3.268.420 3.000 2.005 10932 1
Golf Resort El Castillo PP aprobado inicialmente 01-10-07 1.057.949 1.300 2.005 10933 0,5
Yedra AV PP no aprobado 71.612 75 2.005 12585 -
Finca de Morte AV PP no aprobado 1.535.330 2.000 2.005 14046 0
Fuente del Pino AV PP no aprobado 357.685 713 2.005 14940 -
La Hacienda del Carche AV PP no aprobado 1.830.692 2.000 2.005 16034 0
Señorío de Las Puntillas AV PP no aprobado 455.288 845 2.006 953 0
Peña Roja AV PP no aprobado 569.107 650 2.006 1553 1
Casa Palazón AV PP no aprobado 1.830.687 2.441 2.006 2129 0,5
La Montañuela AV PP no aprobado 1.899.737 5.707 2.006 5999 0
Hoya de la Carrasca AV PP no aprobado 2.046.834 2.500 2.006 6768 -
Ermita de Santa Rosa AV PP no aprobado 81569 150 2006 9091  
Casa Luzón AV aprobado 14-05-07 2.173.700 2.200 2.006 10013 1
Moricandia AV PP no aprobado 158.769 200 2.006 16372 0
Oasis Palm AV PP no aprobado 1.001.658 1.000 2.007 10088 -
Mirador de Santa Ana AV PP no aprobado 249.281 400 2.007 12550 0
Las Traviesas AV PP no aprobado 262.808 578 2.007 15204 0
Los Hermanillos AV PP no aprobado 273.317 418 2.007 21429 0
Cañada Rica Golf AV PP no aprobado 684.963 838 ? ? 1
    47.207.846 80.345     11

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This is dated January - cant find a later one at the mo.

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01 Jul 2008 6:13 PM by laganside Star rating. 19 forum posts Send private message

Hola todos,
The list posted by Linda Needham tells a sorry tale. No approval for most of the projects. The most worrying of all is that San Jose project at Santa Ana has no approval for its urbanization. I know that that the Political Parties  The PP  Party Popular and the PSOE  The Socialist Party have been at loggerheads since the inception of this project, now we see that after 4 years there is no planning permission for an urbanization at Santa Ana.   Que pena !.


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01 Jul 2008 7:05 PM by alamred Star rating. 242 forum posts Send private message

maybe someone will listen to me at last. i suppose tony (i can shout loudest) still believes there is no problems in jumilla in getting planning.

water shortages, san jose have no money, banks have lost interest and have no money, assets valued based on land aquisitions.

but tony and brian and their solicitor went to san jose and they said it was okay

so it must be okay


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01 Jul 2008 7:07 PM by TonyMal Star rating in Oxfordshire. 1090 forum posts Send private message

Hi All,
I have noted what laganside has said about the licence and as this was as of January 2008 there is the posabilty that this may have changed in 6 months. We have allready had a posting some time back on another thread were someone ( yes i can not remeber who) contacted the Town Hall at Jumilla and got confirmation that the licence was awaiting for the deposit of the money ( about 5 million E)

So I am still going to wait and see what the administrators come up with, I see no point in doing much else as my solicitor is handling the recognition of my deposit.
It is not over until the administrators and court say so.

All the best every one
Me........I am waiting ...I am waiting.....for my house.........
Tony


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01 Jul 2008 9:45 PM by Linda Needham Star rating in Jumilla,Spain. 302 forum posts Send private message

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This list is published on the Izquierde Unica web site which is the far left green party.  They are anti everything and only won 2 seats in the last election in Jumilla.  I dont think it is possible for Jumilla to support all the promotions that are lodged for approval so it would make sense that many are not approved for a variety of reasons.  This list on their site was last updated in January and some things could have changed since then. 

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02 Jul 2008 8:09 AM by auntielinda Star rating in San Miguel de Salina.... 646 forum posts Send private message

Hells Teeth Linda 

Thanks you have beena busy girl

makes scary reading if approved it would make a small  town  of 23000 into a city size without the infastructure !!!

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