LITIGATION AGAIN

Yes I think you are right Barry many are there or well along that route already .JA

 well done Barry. make sure that you get this in as there is a ten day window once the lawyers have sight of the report..which will no doubt coincide with Christmas..Or is just that I am a cynic???????

Hi All,

It is not obvious that SADM will not go ahead. I am surprised that you can  make such a remark when you can not read the document. Yes it is long but that is no surprise and even with my limited Spanish I could see the mention of the renegotiation of the finances for SADM. As for litigation, I  strongly suggest that would be a waste of money, time and unnecessary. You will be offered a choice as to whether you wish to continue with your property or to have your money back, so why throw more money at a solicitor? Is it be good to the legal profession and line their pockets season? They are the onyl ones who make money out of litigation and you pay for the pleasure of the grief and time court action takes and usually results in little return, if any.

 I WANT MY HOUSE

Tony R17 18

Thanks Tony

I look forward to your more detailed comments, based on the facts, as the weekend goes on.  I would love to be better informed and have a balanced viewpoint.

Regards

Dear Tonymal,

Please do not insult Solicitors / Lawyers: "why throw more money at a solicitor? Is it be good to the legal profession and line their pockets season? They are the onyl ones who make money out of litigation and you pay for the pleasure of the grief and time court action takes and usually results in little return, if any."

Believe or not, we are here to help, advice and defend the best interest for our clients.

Also. I would be interested in an explanation of where did you get this from: "You will be offered a choice as to whether you wish to continue with your property or to have your money back".

Have you read the report?

Regards

 Hello Martin

I am not one of your clients but think you are doing a great job for those people who have chosen to use you. Tony is in a land of his own and the light will only truly dawn when he loses everything and then Almun stops returning his calls. The only concern is that others do not join him on his warped journey.

martin.. Tony has lied about seeing contents of lawyer letters etc which I know not to exist. You are not dealing with someone with reason more someone with a motive to try and get others to follow his viewpoint. Give him the respect he deserves...none

Hi Tiger (Tony), Grrrowwwl.

You say  "so why throw more money at a solicitor", so did you use a solicitor to represent you when you sued all the companies and people which you have boasted about, or did you represent yourself, being such an excellent report writer and having wonderful grammar and spelling techniques?

I think he used a barrister FIN

I have a memory of both Tony and Brian mags referring to their barristers.......i think they came as a buy one get one free with their solicitors.  They had the use of one for the same money, or something like that.

To illustrate how good their choice of legal representatation was, Tony posted a translation a couple of weeks ago that he received from a solicitor..............it was really funny, any ideas where that was posted FIN.

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 Dear Tonymal,

Are you ever going to reply/apologise to my posting below?

Thank you.

Dear Tonymal,

Please do not insult Solicitors / Lawyers: "why throw more money at a solicitor? Is it be good to the legal profession and line their pockets season? They are the onyl ones who make money out of litigation and you pay for the pleasure of the grief and time court action takes and usually results in little return, if any."

Believe or not, we are here to help, advice and defend the best interest for our clients.

Also. I would be interested in an explanation of where did you get this from: "You will be offered a choice as to whether you wish to continue with your property or to have your money back".

Have you read the report?

Regards

Dear Martin,

Unfortunately some of us have been busy doing Christmas shopping but I have just read your rather odd posting.

I am suprised that you take umberage with my posting as it is a general comment  regarding the costs v benifit of litigation in the administration process. I have taken advice from a chartered accountant, my Uk regulated solicitor and my Spanish solicitor/ barrister and none of them have the view that it would be sensible to undertake litigation. In fact I have been adviced that not only would I most probably not improve the outcome for myself but also I would of incuured additional costs.

I have a question for you: Are you asking for an upfront fee to represent clients in litiagation or is it on a no win no fee basis?

You say, "Believe or not, we are here to help, advice and defend the best interest for our clients" , if that is truly the case why did the solicitors representing 75% of the purchasers not represent them properly and ensure that they were protected by having the Bank Gaurantee that they should of had under the Spanish law?  I am afraid that in my opinion the behaviour and standards of practice by some in the past do not appear to have been undertaken in the best interest of clients. Are you defending their past actions and feel that they were are acceptable? 

As for the other question that you ask  I am sure that you know the answer as does my solicitor/ barrister.

Now as for asking if i have read the report, that is an intersting comment as you have not challenged one of your clients who claims that she recieved a full translation from her soliciotor nor have you offered to provide it for all to see. Have you fully translated the report and given it to your clients?

My barrister has read it and will be providing me and his other clients with a concidered opinion shortly but has said that it looks positive and he feels that refinancing of Hdt and SADM is an attractive prospect for investors.  Perhaps that is why there are negotiations taking place regading with 3 different parites. 

I am sorry that comment appears to have upset you but you must admit that by going by past experiences that it is hard to to trust a profession that, in my opinion have let a lot of purchasers down from the very start of the purchasing process.

All the best

Yes and still   I WANT MY HOUSE AND FOR ALL TO HAVE THE CHANCE TO HAVE THEIRS' TOO!

Tony

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 martin  you will soon find that Tony never answers a single question..just spouts more s***e

the answer is..he finds problem with you as you are doing what needs to be done and what is expressly against the wishes of HDT. You dared to resolve contracts so you must be enemy number one! 

I do not believe that any solicitor of any merit has told Tony not to litigate. If they have then he is working with the very group of spanish professionals he has criticised for poor practice.

Well done Martin and keep up the good work!

Thats a real eye opener of a reply Tony

You have some real issues with the buying process and choose to cast doubt on the legal profession for BG's, when the duty is on the builder to comply with these.

Then you bring up one of this solicitors clients postings about translation and expect him to have commented on the clients comments................why would he do that?  dosnt make any sense.

Then the no win no fee part....the legal proffesin in Spain seem to operate a table of fees rather than a no win no fee.........did you not know this Tony?...........its been a while now since this all started, i thought you were up to speed.

The decision you made to support the builders activities at the expense of your legal representation has been a mistake hasnt it Tony.........and you dont want to see the other side of the coin, at all.

Dear Tonymal,

Thank you for your reply.

Unfortunately, I had no reply to my questions, but I will leave it as it is as I am not here to have confrontation with anyone. I just thought one had to say something about deliberate critics to Lawyers / Solicitors, and I also tried to clarify where did you hear that HdT will offer creditors to either stay with their contracts or get their deposits back. I was interested in this comment on behalf of my clients, as it would provide another possibility.

I have not seen neither supplied a translated copy of the report to my clients, but did explain its contents with the offer to send the document in Spanish to anyone that wanted it - as you know perfectly well, as you got the report from one of them.

With regards to the "no win no fee basis", as you know, this is not allowed by our Law School. If you have a Solicitor, ask him and please don't try to put me on the spot with this as every client is free to choose Lawyer and accept the payment terms.

The point is, I have always respected your objectives and support to clients that wish to have their houses completed, but I have to recommend my clients what I consider is the best way forward to achieve the best result. Only time will say if I was right or wrong but, please, read the report yourself and come back to me with your honest opinion. I look forward to it.

Kind regards,

Dear Martin

Like in any country, including the UK, there are going to be individuals who are not as competent as others.  Unfortunately some of us were not advised by our solicitors (or estate agent) that we should not part with any money until we had a bank guarantee.  We didn't even know such a thing existed, and is essential in Spain, until we read about it on the forum, by which time it was too late!

Personally, I appreciate the help you and others, like Maria, give to people on the forum, and the way you share information.

Feliz Navidad.

Kind regards.

Sue

Martin, this is likely to scare you rigid.

This buffoon chap boasts that he sues all in his way. Banks, Big Companies, Individuals. He has even threatened to sue contributors on here.
Be afraid, be very afarain, he says he uses a Solicitor, a Barrister and a Chartered Accountant.
He is not fool as he surrounds himself with top professionals (well he is really).
Why did such a team of advisors, including a Chartered Accountant, allow him to get into the mess he is in, whereby he paid a deposit for something and got nothing but grief for his money to date. Most odd?

Hi Martin,

Many thanks for your reply and please note that I did say that I was surprised by your comments as I have found you to be helpful and thoughtfull. It was you who kindly provided me with the information of my listing on the creditors list and my offer to buy you a drink and shake your hand in the future still stands.

 SARC have had emails from purchasers who have been badly let down by their solicitors, including telling them that a document was a BG when it was not. 

So please have a good Christmas and do not take the mention of the failings of others as a critisism of yourself.

All the best to you

Tony

Martin, hope you were not expecting a sensible reply.