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02 Nov 2009 10:09 PM by spanhod Star rating. 99 forum posts Send private message

 sorry i didnt realise inspectahome now speaks on behalf of the masses so i stand corrected. Everyone is really happy and and think they have got great value for money. But all of them cant be bothered to post so told Roy to post on their behalf.

Sorry.




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02 Nov 2009 10:11 PM by SteveandJane Star rating in Somerset and Corvera.... 481 forum posts Send private message

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So good to see that the vast majority of those that have completed are very happy with their properties. I expect that most of these spent the time  to visit the showhouse and ask relevent questions such as what are the skirting boards made of or is the rustic finish standard, rather than how much will it go up in value so that I can sell before completion?

From what Roy says, when they eventually build my Menta-West atico it may not have ducted air-con. Come to think of it it's a completely different design to any apartment yet built and the show apartment was a Tilo. Vive la difference that's one of the main reasons I bought on Corvera and not Polaris World.



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02 Nov 2009 10:34 PM by inspectahomespain Star rating in Orihuela Costa, Spai.... 2417 forum posts Send private message

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For most of the people that we inspect, and unlike most other organisations, we actually meet with the customer, onsite, and get real direct feedback and one good measure is if, after their visit and inspection, if they actually choose to complete

My numbers are not made up or exaggerated, they are real people who often now just want to furnish and enjoy their properties

Of the remaining completions 2 are having mortgage problems and 2 more have scheduled completions dates

I am sorry Spanhod if my response doesn´t suit the purpose of certain groups but it is the truth direct from the buyers

I will reoprt properly on the build quality tomorrow

People really don´t want to comment because of the hostile  response they get from a very limited number of posters on this forum

I am delighted if as you claim there have only been 100 hundred peple complete that I have done half of the total inspections because the fact is that severial hundred people have completed, just visit the site to see how many people have furnished, ask Murcia Furniture and DFS how many furniture fits they have done, look at the garden furniture on terraces,  because I would put the numbers, based on actually visiting the site 3-4 days per week, nearer 500 completions


 



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03 Nov 2009 1:13 AM by spanhod Star rating. 99 forum posts Send private message

 funnily enough i dont have an agenda for posting on here, i just have an opinion that i am free to express. I dont advertise my services every time i post.

now if there have been 500 completions then i think its even more alarming that only 4 or 5 owners have come on here to say how happy they are. You seem to claim that the majority of your completors dont want to post on here because they are scared?? i dont think there are any agressive posts on here just opinions, i also doubt that someone that is completing on a property really is that bothered to have had a conversation with you about whether or not they are going to post on eos! So your claim to represent the opinions of many is a tad distorted me thinks.

 those that are using your services are going to be completing and if they are not then there must be something seriously wrong with the apartment because you are a snagger and not legal representation. Those that are completing are either happy to do so,or think they have to so are continuing, do not know there is an opportunity to take legal action or know about it but are not prepared to take that route with the ramifications of costs etc etc. However ,everyones case is DIFFERENT so not everyone is going to be really happy or really upset so i think you should leave it up to the individuals to make their opinions known rather than claiming some sort of universal knowledge of complete happiness. 

Steve im glad to see you are still as happy as ever it brings a warm glow to my heart especially as you are so resentful of anyone that didnt buy on the resort purely for "lifestyler"status. Shame on people trying to make money eh mate?? The annoying thing is we would have all been happy to either complete or flip on if calidona had held up their end of the bargain, but hey  who cares i am just a moaner that annoys people and intimidates them from voicing their opinion....




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03 Nov 2009 4:22 AM by inspectahomespain Star rating in Orihuela Costa, Spai.... 2417 forum posts Send private message

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One of the things that I am always interested in is the source of business so es, with every person I qiualify where the business comes from and the majority of buyers read the forum and know about the legal action, the opprtunity to take legal action and they are happy to complete and you have no right, or evidence to disbelieve my statement

People are not scared but just fed up with the negativity and I know believe that the legal group should just get on with thigs and leyt people know when they HAVE WON their cases

If you go back over other threads there are actually more than 30, individual forum members that have previously stated that they are happy with their purchases includng cmments on snagging, furniture and the resort so it is pretty pointless for them to go back over things on another thread so actually, the buyers have made thei comments and been dismissed by negative forum members

There are at present around 36 propetties where people are resident onsite and I di not check any of them 

People´s personal circumstances change, a few people did not have a mortgage before the inspection and then found that this was a problem so have had problem completing, nothing to do with problems with the property

Unfortunately certain members enjoy winding people up, me I do not rise to this only continue to answer with what the facts I can prove

It also seems that it you don´t want to hear the truth you simply attack tthe response, again based on previous threads

What the return of certain members suggests is that the legal case isn´t actually going quite as well as expected and I would advise the group not to hold meetings in Miguel´s coffee emporium, wnich is a public place, where people can overhear the contents of the meeting and perhaps if people cannot afford to buy they should be more honest

 

 


 



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03 Nov 2009 8:18 AM by ashish Star rating in Cardiff. 137 forum posts Send private message

 Inspectahomespain,

1) I for one respect your opinion, but, your business relies on people completing at Corvera. You cannot represent objective opinion on the state of the development which encompasses more than just the properties. This is what we paid a premium for.

2) There was no group meeting at Miguel's Coffee Emporium (What a joke!). As part of the legal process a small group of people went to Corvera to gather photos and facts - this was completed and everyone agrees the development is nowhere complete as advertised when we put our deposit down. The legal process will take time - people need to know the actual state of play rather than distorted facts from vested interests. After all, they can always visit the site themselves to confirm or refute as required. 

Ash

 



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03 Nov 2009 9:03 AM by SteveandJane Star rating in Somerset and Corvera.... 481 forum posts Send private message

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I expect that out of the 500 or so that have completed, probably only 20 percent have heard of eyeonspain let alone posted a comment on it,

Ash, I am not resentful at all of people who bought as an investment, as I've previously stated many times I am thankfull because without them the project would probably never have got underway. That said, I did invest a fiver on lottery tickets this weekend and the advert said that I could win 7.2 million. You've guessed it, my numbers didn't come up and I'm out of pocket. The difference is I will savour the two days of dreaming of a lottery win (money well spent) whereas some will probably try to seue Camelot for their fiver back. Respect!



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03 Nov 2009 9:05 AM by inspectahomespain Star rating in Orihuela Costa, Spai.... 2417 forum posts Send private message

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Ash when I am onsite I am very visible as I have a silver car with my name in the back and wear shrts with my logo and on the afternoon of the group visit I it was parked outside Miguel´s and I was seated at the  first table, with 2 customers, when the goup of appox 18 people arrived

I have no intention of publishing what was discussed  and pehaps it wasn´t meant to be a formal meeting howver the discussion, lead by Johnathon taking questions fron the group lasted for approx 40 miniutes and, in a public place dicsussd many aspects of the case, individuals rights and his view of the financial status of Callidonia, the 18 months rule and excercising BG´s, and lots of other more confidential matters

The people we were with commented how unprofessional it was to openly discuss  such confidential topics in a public place

Now I am certain that there are people hwo were with the group that could confirm tis as I equally doubt that they will not do this on any open forum

It seems that there isn´t anybody, where I have generally expressed their views on this forum, have raced to disagree with my comments



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03 Nov 2009 9:58 AM by Blueboys Star rating. 39 forum posts Send private message

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Roy

I asked you a question

Is there any chance of answering it without advertising or echoing what you actually do

Thank you




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03 Nov 2009 10:03 AM by inspectahomespain Star rating in Orihuela Costa, Spai.... 2417 forum posts Send private message

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Yes as I said I will respond formally later today when I have caught uo with the day but I would like to ask what you would like me to use as the comparison for build quality the UK or other local spanish developers



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03 Nov 2009 10:26 AM by searay Star rating. 238 forum posts Send private message

interesting thread

roy , is there any reason in the 21st century why spanish quality should be any different to uk quality ? afterall the prices for the finished product are similar , the land is cheaper so shouldent quality and finish be of a comperable standard ?




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03 Nov 2009 10:32 AM by inspectahomespain Star rating in Orihuela Costa, Spai.... 2417 forum posts Send private message

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Yes I agree that there shouldn´t be but yes there is, different materials, different building regulations etc etc

Fact it is a lot more difficult, for some reason , to get level smooth plastered walls and celings and often developers cover the wall with a sprayed on textured finish



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03 Nov 2009 2:25 PM by difi Star rating in Roda Golf . 146 forum posts Send private message

Just for the record:

Roy:    Firstly there was not a group of 18 people in Miguel's - in was in fact about half that number.  Secondly on that occasion during a private meeting with Corvera's own people (including their MD) they stated that 200 people had so far completed.  This would appear to be at odds with the number of 500 that you have quoted.

Steve & Jane:   As you so rightly say Camelot's advertising states that you COULD win 7.2 million pounds - it does not state that you WILL win 7.2 million.

Respect.




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03 Nov 2009 2:27 PM by Blueboys Star rating. 39 forum posts Send private message

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I am talking build quality which in my eyes is appalling whatever country


 



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03 Nov 2009 2:35 PM by inspectahomespain Star rating in Orihuela Costa, Spai.... 2417 forum posts Send private message

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So now it is changed that there was a meeting and I apologise if I may have got the number of people wromg but clearly did happened  

200 surprises me as I have checked more than 50 properties but that may be correct as I can only look at properties that are clearly occupied, furnished etc which I would estimate well over 200

Blueboys how do you actually tecnically want me to measure and report on the quality of the properties, against agreed specification, based on the finish, number of defects found, by type of defect aor against other developments

A general statement saying in your eyes the build quality is appauling isn´t very scientific ands as normal I am very happy to share any information



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03 Nov 2009 2:46 PM by Blueboys Star rating. 39 forum posts Send private message

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Roy

I am talking in general terms "build quality" of this developement

I have asked for your honest opinion

You know exactly what I mean




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03 Nov 2009 3:30 PM by mmepani Star rating. 73 forum posts Send private message

Roy,

To save us from slashing our wrists and reading through this tosh, can you just simply say Corvera is rubbish and is not worthy of a 5* resort. It would save us a whole load of time. Anything else would mean we'll get endless inane comments appropiate only in a playground.

I know Ash and difi have put a deposit on Covera but what about you Blue do you have a property in Covera or Roda? Just curious.

M.


 



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03 Nov 2009 3:43 PM by Blueboys Star rating. 39 forum posts Send private message

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What does HONEST OPINION mean M




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03 Nov 2009 4:02 PM by mmepani Star rating. 73 forum posts Send private message

 

Blue you dont getit do you? If Roy did reply with an honest opinion and it was positive he would still be accused of biased. Ergo, save us the hassle of giving any positive opinion and move on.

Now, I asked you a question care to answer?

M


 



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03 Nov 2009 4:22 PM by Blueboys Star rating. 39 forum posts Send private message

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M

I dont think your getting the subject here, as a structural surveyor I would like to know Roy`s honest opinion on Corvera "Build Quality"

What has owing a property in Corvera or Roda go to do with it

If I was buying on Corvera (which I certainly wouldn`t now) I would like to see how a fellow "Proffesional" actually rates it




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