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14 Aug 2014 5:43 PM by mcapsticks Star rating. 14 forum posts Send private message

Hi,

I've been trying to pay my IBI bill online but it doesn't work.

My bank is Sabadell. When I try to make a bill payment under Municipal Taxes I have to enter the Emisora number 79000010 but it then says it is not recognised and won't pay the bill.

I rang the bank and they said they didn't know why. Great.

Does anyone have the bank details for paying IBI bills to Manilva, or an e-mail address for the Patronato office in Manilva? I cannot find any details anywhere.

I cannot go to the office directly as am in UK and cannot travel over before the deadline for payment.

Can anyone help?

Thanks,

Martin




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14 Aug 2014 6:57 PM by nigel188 Star rating in Estepona. 655 forum posts Send private message

Hi Martin

Found these instructions on another website.Also Website for Telephone numbers.Hope this helps.

Here are the steps.

Step 1 - log into your bank account online.

Step 2 - Look for a heading "recibos/impuestos"

Step 3. Click on "pago recibos"

Now you get "numero de emisora" - you look on your IBI bill and on the bottom left hand side you will see next to EMISORA a number - enter it.

Step 4. Now you will see another page where you need to enter four different numbers all of which appear at the bottom of your IBI bill.
Numero de Emisora
Referencia
Identificacion
Importe (which means amount)

then press enter and HEY PRESTO

Bank instructions may differ but this one is a guide based on what my bank (CAJA MADRID) has.

http://www.manilva.es/secc_manilva4/?id=49

Good Luck


 



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15 Aug 2014 9:59 AM by mcapsticks Star rating. 14 forum posts Send private message

Hi Nigel,

Thanks for the info.

My bank does have a similar system to the one you have listed here, but the problem is that it won't accept the Emisora number on my bill.

I will ring the Patronato office and see if they can help.

cheers,

Martin

 




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15 Aug 2014 1:24 PM by slacey99 Star rating in Dorset and Duquesa w.... 276 forum posts Send private message

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Hi

 I had the same problem, the advice I was given which worked for me was  . . .

"your emisora will be the emisora number plus the 3 sufiljo number which will give you 11 digits.

"Just add the three sufijo numbers on at the end of your emisora number"

Steve

 


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16 Aug 2014 10:20 AM by mcapsticks Star rating. 14 forum posts Send private message

Hi Steve,

Thanks for your help but my problem is the other way round - the number is too long. I need a six digit number and there is not one on my bill.

I think this problem is unique to my bank Sabadell, as everyone else seems to have no problem with this.

Rang the bank who say they don't know why it wont work. Rang the Patronato office and no one picks up the phone.

Emailed Patronato head office in Malaga twice - no reply.

You'd think that seeing as we're trying to pay money into the system that they'd make it a little easier to pay! Why they don't just put the bank account details on the bill is beyond me.

Next thing - I'll be fined for not paying! ha ha.

Will keep trying,

Martin

 




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16 Aug 2014 12:46 PM by nigel188 Star rating in Estepona. 655 forum posts Send private message

Hi Martin

Something to do with Spanish Data Proctection act,no doubt. Endesa and Hidralia(old aguagest) don't print their account nos on their Bills either. If you are not in Spain full time why not appoint a Gestor to handle your affairs. You may have to pay but it will take the hastle factor of all the Phone Calls and Emails trying to sort out all the problems with these Accounts.

Good Luck

 


 



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19 Aug 2014 5:14 PM by mcapsticks Star rating. 14 forum posts Send private message

Hi Nigel,

That was good advice to use a Gestor.

I did exactly that. I used Castles Estate Agency in Sabinillas who I found to be very efficient.

If anyone else is stuck trying to pay bills, I would recommend using them. It was EU30 + IVA

cheers,

Martin

 




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22 Aug 2014 11:19 AM by PMillsom Star rating in Midlands. 469 forum posts Send private message

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Martin,

Have you considered setting up a direct debit for your annual IBI payments?

I went to the local council office in Manilva to do that.

I notice the IBI payment went through my bank about 10 days ago - for the expected amount.

Saves the 30 Euros a year and avoids worry about interest and penalties for late payment.

I do use a third party in Spain to calculate and pay my annual renta renta though I am sure I could process that on-line - just a little to much trouble to do so myself.  That costs 30 Euros a time.




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22 Aug 2014 1:40 PM by mcapsticks Star rating. 14 forum posts Send private message

Hi,

Yes thanks, Sue at Castle's has set it up as a direct debit from now on, so that fee should just be a one off.

Typically I have just had a reply from my e-mail to Patronato head office in Malaga with the bank details to transfer directly.

This is copied below if it is of help to anyone.

Martin

 

Buenos días,

Le envío la información para realizar el pago por transferencia.

Pago por TRANSFERENCIA desde el TERRITORIO NACIONAL:

IBAN: ES5921031001570230000222

 

Como concepto de la transferencia deben indicar el DNI del contribuyente y la matrícula del recibo(en caso de ser mas de una puede indicar la referencia de la carta de pago).

Una vez hecha la transferencia se nos debe de enviar copia de la misma y copia del/os recibo/s pagados al fax 952029052.

 

Informarle que no recomendamos hacer el pago por transferencia bancaria en los últimos días de FECHA LÍMITE DE PAGO que aparece en el recibo, ya que las transferencias tardan en reflejarse en la cuenta beneficiaria unos días, y será éste el día que se considere cobrado el impuesto y no el día que se realiza desde la entidad bancaria emisora. Si lo hace de esa manera, es decir pagarlo por transferencia los últimos días, puede que le soliciten los recargos correspondientes por los días de demora.

 

Atentamente,

Unidad de Atención Telefónica al Contribuyente

Tel. 902 15 20 00 / Fax. 952 02 91 52

ANGOVA




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02 Sep 2014 8:32 AM by hardy2012 Star rating in Scotland UK. 14 forum posts Send private message

How can you find out how much you owe for IBI? My bill is probably sat in the guard office and as I won't be visiting Duquesa until October I need to try and sort this now.

Do you have any contact details for Sue at Castle Estates?

Many thanks

Paul


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02 Sep 2014 8:47 AM by nigel188 Star rating in Estepona. 655 forum posts Send private message

Hi Paul

Here is their Website

http://www.castlesestateagency.com/contact.html

Good Luck

 

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02 Sep 2014 8:54 AM by hardy2012 Star rating in Scotland UK. 14 forum posts Send private message

Thank you Nigel

Regards

Paul




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03 Sep 2023 3:23 PM by kexicus Star rating. 1 forum posts Send private message

Hi Nigel, thanks for your advice on how to enter the data they require. I know the post is years old, but i tried it in my Sabadell account and it worked, so I'm just posting to confirm the information you gave is still current. As someone else stated, you have to sdd the three digit suffix to the 'EMISORA' to make it 11 digits. As soon as i did that, it refreshed and came up with 'PATRONATO DE MALAGA', so i knew it was correct. It also allowed me to set up a direct debit for the future by checking the last box. 
 

Hope you're still in the forum. 
 

Thanks again,

 

Alan




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