Santa Ana licenses and projects to be revoked and cancelled

"I wish i could be in front of you when the report goes online I would love to see your smug smiles wiped out and all the miss information that you have delivered  over the past two years and the heart ache you have given to genuine purchasers at SADM
You really should really place all facts not just part facts before you make your comments and scare people who don't have the info infront of them or someone at hand to give unbiased answers.without chargeing them for it
I hope to see all those who either wish for there money back or their property get what they want and I am very happy at the moment about the situation haven't felt this good in two years"

When the clown cannot write, how can people expect him to understand official and legal documentation.
Translated for the writer to understand. Don't worry, we know you are not very bright

"I would love to see your smug smiles wiped out "
But why would I have a smug smile. I have not and will not lose one cent or penny. Hope you can say the same?

"and all the miss information that you have delivered  over the past two years and the heart ache you have given to genuine purchasers at SADM"
So, will SARC bei making a public apology?

"You really should really place all facts not just part facts before you make your comments and scare people who don't have the info infront of them"
And some who do not even have common sense I think.

" happy at the moment about the situation haven't felt this good in two years"
So true to form there then. Once a fool always........

Hope you have resrved your seat in the lounge bar after your first round of golf, just in case the place is busy

Hi All,

I will share with the opinion of a Spanish solicitor/ barrister on this document:

Dear Tony;
I have check the document from the Town hall,  this document is a legal report but it is not a administrative disposition.
I think that the Town hall is chasing the legal administrator to go ahead with the project.
I suppose that the legal administrator will present a writing to the Town hall against this report.
Nevertheless, the last word in that case will come from the Judge.
The judge could paralyze the acts of the Town hall.

Hi Tony no need for you to share as Brianmags has already shared this info . Have you two fallen out or don't you communicate with each other anymore .  

Dear Tony;
I have check the document from the Town hall, Yes anyone can do this  this document is a legal report but it is not a administrative disposition. No it is a Declaration of breach of urbanistic obligations.
I think that the Town hall is chasing the legal administrator to go ahead with the project.Yes but they still don't have any money and the council like purchasers are fed up waiting and being lied to
I suppose that the legal administrator will present a writing to the Town hall against this report.What good will that do when SJ/HdT still can not finance the project .If the council were truly behind SJ/HdT they would not have presented this to the court !
Nevertheless, the last word in that case will come from the Judge. Exactly not Almu who has admitted in a local newspaper that they still can not finance the project .The judge could paralyze the acts of the Town hall.Hardly likely when SJ/HdT can find no way to refinance the project. The council have a point .They can not be expected to wait forever when SJ can not even finance the completion of other developments started years before SADM . The judge is not stupid !

Tony .have you thought about a new lawyer this guy seems to be telling you only what you want to hear !

Hi CL,

    No we haven't but here is some information on licences in spain the important one is the last part

Building Licenses

Obra Menor (Minor Works)

In Southern Spain you need a license to do just about anything to a property; re-tile a bathroom, put up a new fence or change your windows; such work would come under an Obra Menor license obtained from the Ayuntamiento. They are relatively easy and quick to obtain, you will need to state the type of work you are doing and the estimated cost from which the fee will be calculated. This type of license is usually ready in 2- 4 weeks, depending on your area and providing that all the documentation required is provided on applying.

Obra Mayor (Major Works)

Obra Mayor covers anything that alters the physical floor layout or footprint of the building. There are different rules, in different towns, applied differently, all depending on where your plot or property is situated. You may also be governed by your urbanisation’s regulations. Obtaining a license can take anything from 3- 6 months depending on your area. The cost of this license can be between 3 - 5% of the total build cost.

Licencia de Primera Ocupación

The First Occupation License will be granted by the Ayuntamiento once all work has been completed and all taxes paid. Until this has been obtained official connection to utility services will not be possible..

La Zagaleta

Some urbanisations, such as La Zagaleta, must be consulted on the property design prior to obtaining licenses to ensure compliance with urbanization building regulations. In such cases the Ayuntamiento will require this approval prior to issuing any licenses.

License Time Limits

Rules surrounding limits depend on the local Ayuntamiento. Building work must commence within 6-12 months from obtaining a license and completed within 3 years. This is a legal requirement. In the event of over run the license must be reapplied for and paid for again. It may be possible to extend a license, just once, but only if it is still valid.

so you can see that this is just a normal practince where the the project has not been completed of work completed in timely fashion 

we hope to get the report onto our website as soon aas possible

regards to all

brianmags

R4 556

Hola

As promised, we went to the Ayuntamiento in Jumilla today, and I asked them if I could have a photocopy of the notice that has been pinned up on the public noticeboard.  The good news is that they immediately agreed, so I took it home and scanned it in.  We also bought the Costa Blanca News and scanned in the article about Santa Ana del Monte.

Of course, there is also bad news!  I thought I could upload them on the forum, but the facility is only for JPG files!  I have sent the files to Justin and asked him if he could upload them for me, so watch this space!  I only scanned in the first and last pages, as page 2 was a list of people and institutions, all of which are Spanish!  I didn't think this information was relevant.

This information is of course only relevant to purchasers at SADM!

Kind regards.

Sue

Hi Brianmags I see you are still grasping at straws !

Hi Sue I have had the documents for sometime and have had them translated  but unfortunately can't seem to be able to post them on here in their current format  .Will keep trying .

 Were you just given the documents or did you get the opportunity  to ask anyone at the council for information ? 

What an absolute buffoon the chap is. Why the hell is he bothering to publish regulations not relevant to an new development.
He believed the bulls**t the developer told him about delays and now posts "Obtaining a license can take anything from 3- 6 months depending on your area. The cost of this license can be between 3 - 5% of the total build cost."
Sorry, a complete and utter buffoon.
If it was so simple, why couldn't the developer sort the Licences out years ago.

Money.
Needless to say the buffoon will again want to defend the developer.
Some never learn and others are too stupid. Which is he.

Hi to all,

As explained on the first post of this thread, the document is just a proposal from the legal department of the Townhal, but it is not yet a decision made by the Townhall.

Regards,

Hi Fin

 Just to clear up your mistake here is the relevant paragragh refering to licences and time limits

License Time Limits

Rules surrounding limits depend on the local Ayuntamiento. Building work must commence within 6-12 months from obtaining a license and completed within 3 years. This is a legal requirement. In the event of over run the license must be reapplied for and paid for again. It may be possible to extend a license, just once, but only if it is still valid.

now for the councils point of view

By Nuria Pérez
Jumilla town hall has issued warnings to the builders of Santa Ana del Monte resort as deadlines to construct infrastructure, expropriate land and design plots are due to expire in the coming months.

According to Fina Torres, chief of Jumilla town hall legal department, the board of compensation has not paid the 4.6 million euros for the land which has to be expropriated and they have done nothing since February, 2008.

"The building plan has been definitely approved by the authorities, the land has been turned into building land and the scheme has been temporarily stopped, not cancelled," Sra Torres added.

"Our duty is to state that several parts were due to expire and to find a solution

this is as Martin stated in his last post

So Fin just who is the absolute buffoon now?  why if your a purchaser do you refuse to give your plot number or are you something else?

regards Brianmags

R4 556

I Want My House and a positive outcome for all

Martin Abolex ,

You started this thread with the heading Santa Ana licenses and projects to be revoked and cancelled  to be revoked and cancelled  not may be revoked and cancelled  or could be revoked and cancelled  or indeed  council legal department puts forward a  document of proposals . Which is quite different  to what you actually said  !

You also  wrote in the first post

"Our interpretation of this is that the Town hall is not in favour anymore of this project going ahead, which may reduce any chances of this development being built."

Although I agree with this statement/ opinion  I can not help but wonder  what facts you actually base this statement on  ?

You later posted

"As explained on the first post of this thread, the document is just a proposal from the legal department of the Townhall, but it is not yet a decision made by the Town hall."

May I politely point out that  this was certainly not explained well in your first post ! and in fact your first post now seems to be quite misleading .

I am concerned at the content of your first post and the total turn around you seem to make in your second post . Surely as a respected  lawyer on this forum you are aware that people rely on the accuracy of the content of your posts. If this was  merely a "lost in translation error " I could understand . However I am not sure that it was .

If the lawyers can not get it right what chance do the rest of us have .

This message was last edited by LOUISE CECILIA on 24/10/2009.

Ah, mastermind again.
My mistake, my mistake. Your entire belief of what is happening is one massive mistake.
It is an embarassment.

Dear LOUISECECILIA,

With all due respect, my first post clearly states that "This report explains that the Legal Department of the Townhall of Jumilla has reported with regards to the project "Santa Ana del Monte Jumilla Golf" that the following processes should be started...".

My clients do have a copy of the document with an explanation since that same day.

Kind regards,

FIN

     I have no personal intrest in you or your personal details just this are you not actually a purchaser. you always mislead with snide nasty comments well this time it shows that you maybe do have an intrest in this project failing and not proceding and that all of us with out BGs loose out except maybe you or are you just having fun at the exspence of other peoples misfortune. So in future I will not respond to any of your comments

Brianmags

R4 556

a  Purchaser in the same boat as all of us without BG just working to try and get a better outcome for all

I Want My House and a positive outcome for all

" I have no personal intrest in you or your personal details just this are you not actually a purchaser."
So why ask the question?

"you always mislead "
You sure would know about misleading and misleading statements. You are one of SARC.

"well this time it shows that you maybe do have an intrest in this project failing and not proceding"
Again just confirms how uninformed or mis-informed you are. Don't you realise what a fool you make of yourself?
Of course you don't, that would take a mosel of intelligence.

"and that all of us with out BGs loose"
What of those without?
What of those with a tight BG.
Hope you don't have to write mediacl reports 

"are you just having fun"
No need, you and SARC supply the comedy articles for all to see.

"So in future I will not respond to any of your comments"
Yeeeeeeeeeees, that is both of them, obviousl a leader has issued an instruction.

As puppets, do you get sore from where the master has to stich his/her hand?

With all due respect Martin this still does not  justify the title you chose for the thread Santa Ana licenses and projects to be revoked and cancelled or for the fact that you felt it necessary to post a correction to you initial information

" the document is just a proposal from the legal department of the Townhall, but it is not yet a decision made by the Town hall." Why the need for this correction if your first post was accurate and self explanatory