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For those of you who aren't aware, Huma is currently marketing their latest scam/con, sorry I meant development.

Oasis Thabernax Country Club - Here's the link, along with the off plan prices of Aromas and Tarifas etc.

http://www.proser2000.com/en/golf-properties-almeria.asp

Further proof that Huma are still solvent.

For those of you who are taking Huma to court, it's worth noting that these prices will probably be increased for 2008 - so if you purchased at ACC several years back, you should be due for a nice wedge.

Sorry, just seen the other thread on this subject.

Does anyone have anything that actually links Huma with Oasis?

And does anyone know anything about Huma Valma?

There are details of this new development on:   http://www.almanzora.cc/   which seem to provide a link to Huma.

Many of the drawings and plans carry the logo 'Huerto de las Palmeras' but make no mention of Huma. At Mazarron Country Club the developers original name was 'Huertos de Mazarron' and this was changed to Huma Mediterraneo at a later stage.

I have not previously heard of Huma Valma - do you have any more details?

Huma (Mazarrón) are the developers at Tabernas - from the horse's mouth last October.

ACC is ACC and Tabernas is just a new project and does not have any bearing on those of us who have bought on ACC

Except that Huma are 'so it appears' still business!!

That must be good news but there is no reason why Huma should just ' stop their business' whilst the ACC problems are sorted

The news would be bad if they had stopped !!!!

I agree,  no reason for Huma to stop working on other projects whilst sorting out the mess that is ACC.

However, Huma should also be refunding peoples money (inc deposit) promptly when asked for it, instead of forcing us to engage solicitors. 

Can't Huma  understand that if they had simply given people back their money when originally  asked for it,  they would not now be in the position of having to pay out considerably more money when these people take them to court?

Hi Val

Refunds are strange

Some people get it quick others wait a long time!!

Pehaps taking the direct route to Huma is the best but others have also  received their money very quickly via their agents

On balance for those wanting out the best approach is to do it both ways; keep pestering your agent and solicitors and get on a plane and call in and see Huma!!

Agree that you should not have to do this but accept reality !

Let's hope that we do see a re start in 2008!!!!!

Many of us have done just that.  In fact since July 2006 (2 years after Huma breaking the contract) I have spent a hell of a lot of money  on flights out to Almeria, solicitors, accomodation etc......

The money I've spent is of course being included in my claim against Huma.  My point is, it didn't have to come to this.  If Huma had acted legally and refunded the total amount that I had paid in 2004, I would not be claiming anything else back. 

I admire your relentless optimism, but I can't share your confidence concerning  if and when the ACC is completed (with promised facilities and new access) and also the quality of the development, which does not appear to match the original show units.

Good luck with your claim 

I would not say that I am fully optimistic...... just that from my perspective that it is still worth waiting a touch longer

For many who want Spain now, then there is no reason to wait any longer

Getting close to Mid January 2008 and no action and with the slow property market in EU there are some good buys out there and if you start now you can be in by Easter

rowlandsbb said:

 "ACC is ACC and Tabernas is just a new project and does not have any bearing on those of us who have bought on ACC"

Be that as it may, Humas track record at Mazarron Country Club and Almanzora Country Club is not a good advertisement for their new project. Prospective purchasers at Oasis Country Club could expect that they will receive the same treatment and may decide not to take that chance.

It could be a good investment on Humas part to complete the infrastructure and amenities at Mazarron Country Club and provide Habitation Certificates, which would at least show that they are doing the things they are able to and giving some consideration to their customers.

Gail

You made a comment about HC's at Mazarron CC

Are you saying that no one at MCC has HC's?....and everyone has moved in without one!!

Everyone at MCC moved in without a Habitation Certificate.

Some were issued late last year but I do not think Huma have released them yet. Most of the development do not yet have Habitation Certificates - Huma have not completed the infrastructure.

I understand that since Jan 2007 about 70% of the infrastructure on new developments has to be completed before the house building starts

This it appears was brought in to stop situations arising where the developer is slow in completing the infrastructure or promises a golf course which is never built!!!

I suspect that this new law will apply when ACC re starts 

The majority of banks now  require a HC before giving mortgages and in the current slow market buyers should not complete without one

No doubt Huma will find that when they do finish the new house at ACC they will find most of their buyers insisting on a HC!!!

Surely the owners at MCC are now pressing hard for their HC's!!!!

I think that the none issue of the HC's, for the earlier manzanas at MCC, is down to slow admin. at Mazarrón Town Hall, Brian.  The properties on these manzanas now have contracts for both their water and electric, which, as you know, cannot be issued unless the HC's have been approved.

Peter

That is good

Perhaps we are now in a transition period...... HC's get issued by the local council slowly on the older developments [ and I know there is a back log and little risk for most owners]

But in the future the local council will have to be more efficient ,as very few people will complete without HC' s....and it will be the builders turn to start ' to shout' !!!

Now that we are getting  near to mid Jan 2008 I think most buyers are running out of patience

You are quite correct, Huma customer relations are poor, and if ACC does go ahead we are all due some good compensation for the delay and sticking it out for so long

The recent problem at Vera illustrates how the Junta can operate!!!

As at now all we can be certain of is that ACC is included in the plan but not approved and it is of course possible that the Junta will turn it down.....hope not and perhaps no news is good news!!!..........still in with a chance

And no one can tell us when the decision will be made....only sometime soon

On balance of probabilities I still think ACC will be built in due course and when it is we will all at least know that 'it is legal' and we will get our habitation certificates

There is nothing that Huma can tell us just now as I think they do not know themselves when the decision will be made.....they just hope that it will be soon

It would be interesting to know if Huma have all the permits for Tabernas or are they also waiting for the Junta's decision on this as well and doing a bit of advanced marketing

The Tarifa is advertised at 147.000 € which looks in line with what you can now get new in this area but it only matters if ACC is built!!! 

Among the many, many interesting things is whether or not they will be able to sell at the advertised price, or even much lower.

I am afraid I am becoming more cynical - I don't see how they will be able to finance the sites at all.  They will struggle to sell at either site in the current market, and they must be very, very short of cash.  They will be hoping that they can pull in more deposits on the new site, and frankly, I don't think they will be able to raise enough money to make up for all of the returned money from ACC, along with compensation and court costs. 

I am sorry Brian, I think you often talk a lot of sense, but I do remember that you were confident of good news in September, then there was slippage to January, and now an admission that actually no one has any idea when a decision is going to be made.  I have long ago thought my deposit was a lost cause, and I can live with that, but I really really hope that those who have put much more money in, are not left out of pocket.  And yes, you might get some  'good compensation' for sticking with Huma, but only in Bizarro Land.

And have I misread or misunderstood -  Still noHCs on MCC  - why on earth should you be confident they would be issued for ACC?????

Good luck to all who move on this year - and I suspect with the deteriorating conditions in the Spanish market and the saga of ACC, sadly many will have been put off Spain for ever!!

Brian