The latest corruption scandal to hit Spain.

 However I think this case should never have gone so far. They should have allowed the sentance to be substitued for community services, even if they were past the deadline. It was her first offense. Technicalities of the judicial system.

 Here's the story of the valencian women from thinkSPAIN.com : 

www.thinkspain.com/news-spain/22312/domestic-violence-victim-who-used-lost-credit-card-to-buy-food-and-nappies-to-go-to-jail-six-years-later

update on reprieve :

Go to EOS NEWS BLOG to read the article

This message was last edited by eos_ian on 02/02/2013.

Johnzx.

Perhaps it didn't come across as i meant it to, but the biggest corruption in the UK is not so much the police  (with them i it goes on)  as the people who control this country and get contracts from the government.

The public as a whole have such a low opinion of the police it's good from their point of view to show us they do to their own what gets done to us.

I have seen corruption from the top down to the bottom, and the bottom do it because the top get away with it. I knew of a local council top dog get a new house for free on a newly built housing estate because he somehow managed to pass an order for a lot more then the general recommended houses per acre.

We catch a corrupt person now and again for sure,  which only helps to make the bigger one cover up more.

When i quoted points on his wife's licence that was a for instance, if this man could do this, he and the many like him are quite capable of doing greater things that the likes of me and you wouldn't dream of doing.

It still beats me as to how blair has managed to get such vast wealth after leaving office...not forgetting he got some by dealing with the con man over those flats while in office...he still wont declare his full worldwide earnings or where they are stashed, and this is just one man, who told the nation "I am a pretty honest type of guy". Bet he is glad Gaddafi is dead...dead men don't talk.

Corruption is world wide, Spain is no worse then us or anywhere else, it's more to the front because of the problems Spain have and, probably be France next month, one of Spain's top women bankers left the bank with a pay of that she designed herself of 350,000 plus€ a year for life, she took that over a lump sum, the lump worked out smaller. Ours do the same. 

 Latest on Barcenas case:

“It has all been a set-up by someone who has had access to the official accounts of the PP,” Bárcenas maintains. 

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 So..... are they the official accounts? Or is it a set-up?

I heard the leader of the PP for Catalunya admitting that some of the cash payments in the 'Barcenas papers' corresponded  to"cash" payments that were made to victims of terrorism, but as they were officially declared there was no reason it should raise suspicion.

Why would you pay victims of terrorism compensation in 'cash'?..... 

 Urdangarin's lawyer has presented an appeal to the courts today and will take the case to the Constitutional Tribunal to try and have the case nulled. He states that the defense of his client, the Duke of Palma is impossible as they are not being informed of the new evidence that is being added to the case on a daily basis. The trial is unfair and infringing his contitutional rights.......

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 UPDATE ON BARCENAS :

 Bárcenas signed statement in front of notary 'naming and shaming' PP's donors and recipients of funds 

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Well the wife has now been convicted. 

Lets see what sentences are imposed

 And Silvio Berlusconi has been given a year inside.  However, he still has lots of appeals to get through before he finally ends up in the nick, if he ever does.  Now, that's a country that takes corruption to a level approaching an art form.

I would have bet money that this pair of snakes would get of with it...so glad to be wrong...now lets do the other Liberals who supposedly knew all about it, and anyone else for that matter.

I read somewhere why the 1st trial was thrown out, it seems that some of the jury didn't have a full understanding of the English law....or put another way, immigrants got called up for jury service and couldn't understand English.

Uh, we're talking about the vast, systemic corruption of epic proportions in Spain, on this thread, not three points on a licence in Britain 10 years ago...

Uh, we're talking about the vast, systemic corruption of epic proportions in Spain, on this thread, not three points on a licence in Britain 10 years ago...

Yes i do know that, but i was only doing an answer to another post on here, that's how threads go, they twist and turn a little bit....also for the record as it happens it's not just three points on a licence 10 years ago, it's the fact that two high profile people lied about who was driving a car when it went through a speed check and then kept this lie up for the full 10 years, and i think up to almost the time it went to court, and whats the thinking behind this from the scumbag then...."Huh me be done for speeding...don't think so, that's for the small people of the country, not for the likes of me".

If you or me had done this the cops would have woke up the Judge on a Sunday morning to prosecute us.

And....As it happens this person who found and used the credit card knew full well what they were doing, gave no thought to the fact that the person that lost the card just might have been in the same position as them, who knows? had they got away with this who knows where it would have gone,  sure they needed some money to feed the kids etc, better that then telling the judge they wanted a new TV and I am not judging this person one bit.

And also If you think Spain has vast corruption delve a little into the background of England's current system, and the not to distance past one, you might have a wake up call. 

Vague, unsubstantiated references to some terrible hidden swathes of corruption in the UK and efforts to suggest that this amorphous thing could in any way compare to the corrupt beast that is Spain, do not constitute a logical argument.

Vague, unsubstantiated references to some terrible hidden swathes of corruption in the UK and efforts to suggest that this amorphous thing could in any way compare to the corrupt beast that is Spain, do not constitute a logical argument.

Vague unsubstantiated references...So you want some then do you?

I own and my run my own business's so i deal with this just a bit more then you might know about, and think don't go on.

How far back shall i go? lets start with 1975, ten corrupt local planning officers which i gladly paid of to get some planning permissions through...Still in the time frame of 1972 to 1982, as many corrupt councillors as you could shake a stick at, quite a few took newly built houses on new housing estates to pass things, and keep quite...all free...think not possible then...wise up a bit.

1982 -1989 another load of corrupt councillors and yes the serious fraud office New Scotland Yard involved, i took some of the cheques of them, and a few went to jail.

Want you like to talk about corrupt cops now then? because they exist as well you know....like in every Xmas for their Xmas box money.

Best i don't say to much about the corrupt politicians is it,  yes i know a few....Oh the list could go on for age's.

And you also failed to answer about the three points on a licence that i pointed out to you were not quite what it seemed,so  please don't give me  logical argument's until you are sure of all your facts. And also if Spain affects you this much and saddens you badly...leave the corrupt beast called Spain.

Then where you going to live that is not corrupt in other ways, have they built that place yet?

 You might like to bash me about with your excellent choice of big words, me, i know very few as you can tell, my excuse to being ignorant is due to the lack of schooling by many years....whats your excuse?

A few anecdotal pieces of evidence which allegedly occurred several decades ago cannot compare with the systemic corruption of Spain that has brought it to its knees.  The Spanish people now recognise this and are in despair over it.  Why do some British people feel the need to say that it is as bad or worse in the UK?

for the life of me I don't know why some people are even looking at this site, they hate Spain so much

A few anecdotal pieces of evidence which allegedly occurred several decades ago cannot compare with the systemic corruption of Spain that has brought it to its knees. The Spanish people now recognise this and are in despair over it. Why do some British people feel the need to say that it is as bad or worse in the UK?

This type of stuff is still going on...now...these days, 2013...and NOT "Allegedly" but fact, just because you you cant see that don't mean it doesn't exist.

The corruption in Spain is not the reason it is on it's knees, has hardly anything to do with it at all, what a short sighted answer,  granted it hasn't helped Spain's reputation through the media, but as we all know the media loves a bad story, that sells more papers.

If you knew anything about business, and the workings of it....no matter how small the business is, you would know what has brought Spain down,  it's quite obvious that you have no idea that quite a few other countries are in much the same trouble as well, and just for the record if the truth was spoken and known about the state the UK is in that might shock you as well. So don't run away with the idea that because you alone cant control corruption in Spain that alone has ruined it, get to live with it...don't like it...leave. But in the very least do some homework on the cause's of what is causing these world wide problems before you try to post.

I am NOT telling you that the corruption in the UK is worse then Spain, they are your words, i AM telling you that every country has corruption and it has gone on for many years and will do so while humans run anything, you don't have the sole monopoly on corruption in Spain. It's affecting you badly i can see that now.

for the life of me I don't know why some people are even looking at this site, they hate Spain so much

Trust that post is for Eggcup and not me, because me.... i love Spain, never knocked it at all, have done so for the past 30 plus years, have bought another house in Spain with the view to retire in Spain and enjoy the sunshine and hopefully relaxed life style.....To me Spain is not the beast someone has made it out to be.