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10 Mar 2013 12:49 PM by ads Star rating. 4136 posts Send private message

Isn't it in everyone's interest to try and cure corruption and look towards a realistic means of doing that through greater accountability, transparency, a fair and effective system of justice, etc? All too often much time appears to be spent debating who is the worst perpetrator rather than looking for feasible ways to bring people together and work towards eradicating the corruption that eats away at any civilised society....

There has to be a concensus and commitment to tackle corruption/malpractice from within, to curb the tendency to be over defensive and recognise the harm that comes when the majority turn their back on uncomfortable realities that are sadly impacting Spain.





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10 Mar 2013 1:59 PM by eggcup Star rating. 567 posts Send private message

Yes, ads.  We found in the past that Spanish friends didn't really think about it and even when there were polls just a few years ago, worries about corruption didn't rate that highly.  I believe this has now changed and that feeling of resignation is lifting and turning into anger.  The Spanish people know they have to tackle this massive problem and are clearly feeling overwhelmed by the enormity of it. But they have to start somewhere and I think that how they handle the whole Barcenas affair will be pivotal.  It is a critical time for Spain.



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10 Mar 2013 5:28 PM by Mungry Star rating. 329 posts Send private message

when they money was flowing to everyone nobody cared.

now things are getting a bit tighter people, the spanish people are wondering where their share is.

so dont confuse spanish people suddenly being aware of corruption due to some moral shift from apathetic pikey to moral upstanding people.
it is purely they are annoyed because they didnt get their piece of the pie so want those that did to suffer.



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11 Mar 2013 12:35 PM by ads Star rating. 4136 posts Send private message

That doesn't paint a very pleasant picture of the majority of Spanish people Mungry.

I prefer to think that maybe in this process the Spanish will recognise how, in hindsight, the impact of corruption and malpractice and the failure to effectively regulate against Banking, regional/local Government, legal and real estate industry abuses, has acted as disincentive to those who would otherwise be happy and willing to invest (or re-invest) in Spain. It’s important to recognise also the impact on Spanish nationals, those who have borne the brunt of unemployment in the wake of such failures to regulate. The economic downturn reeling from inadequate worldwide Banking regulation, coupled with this background of continuing property rights abuse in Spain only accentuates the need for longer term reform to the benefit of all.





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11 Mar 2013 1:58 PM by clarice Star rating. 35 posts Send private message

 Mungrey , realism is not allowed on eye on spain you know..........................your going to have to watch it or you will be as unpopular as me   lol





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11 Mar 2013 10:09 PM by Mungry Star rating. 329 posts Send private message

ads

i am sure you would prefer to think that.

but as we know, reality and the truth is different.

liek th protests in the spanish airport at the moment from the spanish saying  `english go home.`

we never heard that when we were pouring billions in

 



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15 Mar 2013 11:17 PM by eos_ian Star rating in Valencia. 510 posts Send private message

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 UPDATE:  URDANGARÍN'S APPEAL ON BAIL REJECTED

A JUDGE has rejected the appeal by the King's son-in-law Iñaki Urdangarín and his former co-director Diego Torres against their 8.2-million-euro bail release. 

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16 Mar 2013 10:26 PM by eos_ian Star rating in Valencia. 510 posts Send private message

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 CHECK THIS ONE OUT!!!

 Bárcenas claims three-and-a-half years' wages of 21,300 euros a month in unfair dismissal case against PP 

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17 Mar 2013 4:10 AM by Mungry Star rating. 329 posts Send private message

its just so luaghable

like its not the real world



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24 Mar 2013 6:41 PM by eos_ian Star rating in Valencia. 510 posts Send private message

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 This is now the latest scandal to hit the news, it was just a question of time... 

Carlos Fabra, ex president of Castellon and cousin to Valencia's current President finally steps down as CEO of the ridiculous Airport scandal in Castellon to attend the trial etc. I can't believe the guy actually put a statue of himself in the Airport and to this day it has only been used for illegal car races! This just isn't the real world is it!  The Fabra family have always been one of the most powerful familes in Castellon for over a century they they have basically done what ever they wanted when they wanted, hence the "untouchable" attitude of this politician... 

 

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24 Mar 2013 7:22 PM by CostaBlade Star rating in Riviera. 114 posts Send private message

I thought i might add a touch of optimism to this thread.

I am President of our community (84 apartments) and i don't take "sweetners" from suppliers or any-one else. I am told i am a rare breed amongst Presidents ! It comes down to concience, and it's not my money anyway !!  (By-the-way, I was told i could make 1000 euros a month.).  I find it incredible that any President should take money from "owners"  but insn't that where it all starts - power and greed. 

I have chatted with the MD of our administrators about the problems of corruption in  Spain and he says "it is changing, but slowly,         " it has to change for the sake of Spain the corruption must end"  and i believe him. Before anybody says "he is probably still ripping our community off"  I am certain he is one of the "good guys"  he runs what in the UK we call a "medium size" company and dosn't need the money. He refuses to pay any-one on a "cash" basis (even if i employ them as President) he insists on a properly made out invoice showing IVA amount, and i authorise payment and make sure it is the for the correct amount .

The Hacienda are begining to make checks on companies/communities, and the fines are not worth the hassle.

Small beginings, but people like our administrators and people like him need to stand up and and make a start on ending corruption here in Spain and else-where, only then will we see change.

Having said that, you will never stop corrupt politicians or people in power, you just have to rely on the courts making an example of them when they catch them. That will send a message to others. then it will end.

Here's to a corrupt free Spain.





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25 Mar 2013 12:02 AM by normansands Star rating in Kent. 1277 posts Send private message

Nice reading but aren't you preaching to the converted???

You need to take action in Spain where it happens, don't you think???

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25 Mar 2013 10:21 AM by Rossetti Star rating in Oxford and Zurich. 124 posts Send private message

In the land of the 'cash is best' why is anyone suprised corruption is every where.

Suspect with the amount of cash transactions here in Cadiz the actual GDP is many times that on the books.

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03 Apr 2013 4:19 PM by eos_ian Star rating in Valencia. 510 posts Send private message

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BREAKING NEWS :

PRINCESS CRISTINA HAS BEEN CHARGED AND SUMMONED TO COURT TO TESTIFY ON THE 27 OF APRIL FOR THE CORRUPTION SCANDAL "CASO NOOS"

elpais.com/elpais/2013/04/03/inenglish/1364991025_191734.html

 

 



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26 Jun 2013 9:36 PM by eos_ian Star rating in Valencia. 510 posts Send private message

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 The plot thickens with Barcenas and the scandal just gets bigger and bigger....

 

Go to article on Barcenas



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28 Jun 2013 11:27 AM by eos_ian Star rating in Valencia. 510 posts Send private message

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NEWS UPDATE :

 

BARCENAS GOES TO JAIL UNTIL TRIAL....

 

 

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