cant wait to relocate to spain - bitten by the bug

I am now dead depressed. May 08 for Block 10 ? My headache is coming on again.

I was thinking Feb 08 at the very very very latest.

And what's this with builders supply for the initial blocks ? Surely that's not a good sign.

Gone off now to lie down

Ps How the hell can they estimate 54% completed ?. I mean, not 50 % ? Where is the 4% ?

Thanks for the update - at least there is hopefully a commitment to complete Phase 4 by Jan09 (?!?!).

Pity the commitment came too late last night!!

Thank you to Sean for the latest. 

I am in block 6 so I am assuming that my block has been granted the licence this has been confirmed by my solicitor in Sept.  However, I am concerned about the lack of service supply mentioned in Sean posting.  A "Builders Supply" is a temporary supply, it is not guaranteed and can give low voltage, assuming that the "Certificate of Habitation " has been issued for the blocks mentioned I cannot see why the main electrical and water supply cannot be connected?  I would be inclined to refuse to complete until the mains have been connected, surely an essential part of the internal snagging procedure is testing water and electricity?  Admitted whilst using the "Builders Supply" we will not be paying for services or local taxes to the Town Hall and this may seem attractive until the service fails.  How long will this supply continue for?  Needless to say not happy I feel the connection of Electric/water to the main supplier should be a priority.

I know we need to watch our Carbon footprints and it may be quaint to use the candles and portable bar-b on the patio but if the electric fails whilst using my hair straighteners all hell will brake loose!

Laurdan, has your licence really been confirmed.  I have yet to find anyone who has seen documentary evidence.  I think you may have been misled by your solicitor.

However, I agree that a builders supply is really not good enough.  The water supply will not be drinkable and you will have to use bottled water.  Also, do you really believe you won't have to pay local taxes?

WE are not happy with going on builders supply,its either completed or not! But I may worry that Priensur can make us complete once contracts are issued.But if we stick together then there is no need to worry over the bully boy tactics that they may impose..This company are obviously not bothered about us as individuals and would not i fear have any qualms on cancelling our contracts at a stroke.Our solicitors dont seem to have much "clout" about them and would probably go along with Priensur.Whats other peoples thoughts please

Ken Lynn

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As I understand it, banks will not grant mortgages anyway until the LFO is issued, so we certainly won't be completing unless everything is honky dory.

Regarding utilities, these cannot be individually metered and connected to each apartment unless there is a LFO, and since there is a couple of months still to go for the first completions, why can the utilities not be connected up in that timeframe ?

It sounds very odd...............

I'm sure I recall a message on this site previously which mentions another development by Arenal....was it Arenal Golf?? had completed some phases, although they were still on builders supply, so it is not unheard of that people may have to complete with a builders supply, although please treat my comment here as hearsay, not fact.

I had actually thought it might be a bonus to have a builders supply, as I would wonder how they could reasonably charge you...so you might get lucky.  Once again my thoughts....I would suspect that any water supplied by the builder would be supplied by a water bowser & that it would be suitable for human consumption.

Finally, I understand the scepticism over the FLO being granted, however I do believe that too many people have been told it has been granted by different solicitors, for it not to be true.

I guess its the old weatherforecaster syndrome....I never doubt them when they tell me it will rain, I never believe them when they say its gonna be sunny...maybe this is setting into our psyche and we dare not believe good news until we see it with our own eyes, as there have been too many disappointments.

Hang on in their you lucky "early release people" im sure you'll love it when you're in your apartment whilst us second release people will miss out on Easter & early spring, whilst you enjoy your havens....smiling sweetly & piyfully on us yet to complete.

Hasta Luego!

Hi everyone,

We are on Arenal Golf in Benalmadena and living in a rental on Phase 3 which was completed and handed over to the owners from Autumn last year. We were on builders electricity until the end of August this year. All it meant for us was that the supply was connected but not to individual meters.  Once we were connected to our meter we started paying for it!  We guess the same is probably true for 'builders water supply' although we couldn't swear to that.

We are still waiting to get into our own apartment on Phase 4 which has been finished since last December but has not yet been released due in part to the situation of which we are all aware. The local council  have only granted a provisional occupation licence to Phase 4 until all apartments are connected to their own meters and satisfactory reports have been provided by the electricity and water companies. They are also insisting that all external telephone cabling is in place for the Phase, so our wait and those of other purchasers continues!

Bantam

I'm wondering if the experiences that we have at Duquesa with Prienesur/Arenal are the same with the buyers/owners on Arenal Golf ?

Are you getting any sort of response or communication from them ?

Arenal Duquesa feature on the front page, well, a very small feature.

http://www.theresident.eu/down.htm

The web master of the Arenal Golf site invited Querens, who are the company dealing with Sales for Prienesur ,to make use of the web site to provide info and answer questions. If you look on www.arenalgolf.com you will see what happened! It was a pointless exercise. Most of us have given up visiting the sales office as either they tell people what they think they want to hear or they say that they have no information.

One of the contributors to our site has managed to make a contact within Gerens who occasionally emails him with what seems to be fairly solid info. People were getting so down that we started putting weekday daily posts on the web site reporting only on what we had seen with our own eyes or what we had experienced. We back this up with photos as appropriate. It seems to have been appreciated.

On the positive side we are quite impressed by what we have seen of the Gerens project team as things seem to be moving forward now on a considered and organised basis. Quite some time had to be spent in clearing what was a very cluttered and disorganised site. Work is now going ahead quite quickly.

We are also happy with the quality of finish in the apartments as having lived in one on an earlier phase than ours for quite some time now we would have spotted any major problems!

A lot of the current delays seem to be coming from the local council who are quite rightly playing everything by the book. Some of the Spanish residents on the earlier phases have been lobbying a local councillor with regard to the problems they had encountered re electricity, phone lines and the lifts which were erratic due to poor phone connections.

The Malaya scandal to which the original developer was linked has made the authorities understandably jumpy . Unfortunately the impact on us as buyers has been an extremely negative one!

Sorry for Querens read Quermes!

Impending old age hits again!

Thanks Bantam for coming back so quick with your reply.

I just find all these people quite hopeless, and their communicative approach to us customers a disgrace.

My headache is coming on again..............

We have forward booked to come over Jan 08, May 08 and Sept 08.

We discounted the Jan trip as regards moving in, but surely we thought May was a definite runner, but now it looks even Sept could be touch and go.

When we were over three times during 07 we were specifically looking for a retirement apartment for 2014 (which we think we have identified in a good development), with the Duquesa apartment as a holiday base until then.

If Duquesa isn't finished until 2009/10 (or further) it now poses a timing problem for us because we need to sell the Duquesa apartment and our own house here in Norn Iron to move to our retirement apartment.

I don't know if that is now worth the hassle strategically - maybe just wait until 2014 and do it in one clean sweep.

We remain very positive about the development itself but it means we would be buying and selling again within a four year period.

 I can understand where you are coming from Will, it will be sad to see you go if you decide on that path your enthusiasm and pace for the project is great.  I have woken this morning to a very frosty St Albans...Just checked flights going out of Luton to Malaga early December and I can return for £40.00.  I really thought that I would be in my apartment by now and this time last year dreamed that I may be celebrating my birthday in Duquesa, but  another year has gone by and still we wait.  Obviously having a bad day today...eventhought of cancelling briefly.  It is all so annoying! .