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22 Jun 2008 10:53 PM by julie anne Star rating. 1103 forum posts Send private message

I have found another article in the spanish press which may be worth a look .I have tried to post the web details but am not allowed to post a web link until I have made ten posts.I have only made 8.however I will give the info without posting a link so you can all have a look not sure what this all means for us .the paper is called activaorihuela  if youcan't find it pm me.
It mentions the companies involved the Orihuela football club stuff.I am being careful now not to express an opinion and just give out the info .I dont wantt anyone else getting mad at me but dont want you to miss out on anything thats out there Knowledge is power.cheers


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22 Jun 2008 11:05 PM by briando55 Star rating in Yorkshire. 1982 forum posts Send private message

Hi Julie

Thanks.....your only a couple away from posting links.   And if you have a point to make im here waiting...i didnt get it this time.....give it another shot

Brian

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22 Jun 2008 11:05 PM by briando55 Star rating in Yorkshire. 1982 forum posts Send private message

Hi Julie

Thanks.....your only a couple away from posting links.   And if you have a point to make im here waiting...i didnt get it this time.....give it another shot

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22 Jun 2008 11:42 PM by julie anne Star rating. 1103 forum posts Send private message

Hi Brian did you try to google it it is working for me even using that  one word


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23 Jun 2008 12:18 AM by julie anne Star rating. 1103 forum posts Send private message

There are three people contributing to this thread who are with san jose ie on the payroll in one way or another.


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23 Jun 2008 12:37 AM by briando55 Star rating in Yorkshire. 1982 forum posts Send private message

Hi again

Send me a link to the thread you mean.....ta

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23 Jun 2008 7:45 AM by alm Star rating. 142 forum posts Send private message

Specify which companies you are asking about
The companies which loaned the funds

Specify why you want to know and what your purpose is...then you may get an answer...or not...
Is there a business link between the funders and the club director or directors?

Its a very personal request
I can't see what is personal about that, especially if there were to be business links.


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23 Jun 2008 7:55 AM by briando55 Star rating in Yorkshire. 1982 forum posts Send private message

Specify which companies you are asking about
The companies which loaned the funds
From who to who and how much and what difference does it make

Specify why you want to know and what your purpose is...then you may get an answer...or not...
Is there a business link between the funders and the club director or directors?
what difference does it make

Its a very personal request
I can't see what is personal about that, especially if there were to be business links
Its personal to the people who are conducting business..what difference does it make?

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23 Jun 2008 1:03 PM by alm Star rating. 142 forum posts Send private message

OK.

Specify which companies you are asking about
The companies which loaned the funds
From who to who and how much and what difference does it make
So assume I have a couple of companies A, B and C
A & B lends funds to C. Where the funds allowed to be transferred, was the transfer with the agreement of the directors and shareholders. As with companies which are Ltd. or Plc, you just cannot shift funds when you want to who you wants (read up on Conrad Black)

Specify why you want to know and what your purpose is...then you may get an answer...or not...
Is there a business link between the funders and the club director or directors?
what difference does it make
See the above reply

Its a very personal request
I can't see what is personal about that, especially if there were to be business links
Its personal to the people who are conducting business..what difference does it make?
If it is a Ltd. or Plc, certainly not personal, as details are in public domain.
Assuming there were links, is could be where misappropriating funds comes into it.
If you have a Ltd. or PLC, you just cannot decide to go out and buy yourself a racehorse out of company funds.



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23 Jun 2008 1:36 PM by briando55 Star rating in Yorkshire. 1982 forum posts Send private message

You said

So assume I have a couple of companies A, B and C

This reminded me of an old saying, which is.

There are only 3 kinds of financial experts.....those that can count and those that can't



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23 Jun 2008 2:43 PM by alm Star rating. 142 forum posts Send private message

24 Jun 2008 1:04 AM by julie anne Star rating. 1103 forum posts Send private message

alm 
you really need to stop winding these guys up .They are going to have a hissy fit its not worth it be nice .They have a really serious job to do in making sure people get what they want out of all of this .You are hindering thier cause .You must realise these are the guys that are best placed to get people a good outcome now please leave them alone be nice. I have seen you winding up arnoldg ,tonymal and brian55 now stop it we are all going to be nice from now on These guys  have a level head  a serious strategy and could influence this whole process hugely and get people all the outcomes they want. so please be nice.Thanks



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24 Jun 2008 10:20 PM by TonyMal Star rating in Oxfordshire. 1090 forum posts Send private message

Hi ALL,.
It  appears that there are people who do not wish for SADM to go ahead and I can only ask why? I can think of  2 reasons, the first being to make moeny out of us and/or SJ  or secondly due to personal issues! 

As SADM purchasers we need to stick together and not be panicked by the rumours and comments that are being posted.
I stongly beleive that it is very very likely that  soon we will have the oportunity to continue with our purchases and have our homes. This is a much better outcome for the greatest percentage if not all of us and there are some people who do not want this to happen.

SADM purchasers have formed thier own body SARC and this has been engaged quietly working towards the continuation of SADM. The out look is looking better but we need to keep working towards this and ask that you all remain calm. Please remember that those of you on R 4,7,10,15 have your foundations, so how long do you think it would take to complete if work restarted? 

Do not listen to or be affected by the rumour factory.

I want my House and I want you to have yours too!
Tony R17 18



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25 Jun 2008 4:15 AM by julie anne Star rating. 1103 forum posts Send private message

Quote     "dont be panicked " be very panicked  you will never get your house from san jose they are finished believe me remember I told you



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25 Jun 2008 6:46 AM by TonyMal Star rating in Oxfordshire. 1090 forum posts Send private message

I find it interesting that any one should advice panic. SJ are not finished until the administrators and courts say so and I very very much doubt it!   I have left your negative strand alone.


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25 Jun 2008 7:28 AM by arnoldg Star rating. 49 forum posts Send private message

Julie Anne,

My very last posting on this as I'm sick to death of you and ALM!!

You carry on slating all that the group that wants their house say and claim they are being irresponsible and then you put the following:

""Quote     "dont be panicked " be very panicked  you will never get your house from san jose they are finished believe me remember I told you""

Who the hell do you think you are, you don't know SJ are finished unless you are the Judge and he does'nt even know at this stage.

So what you are doing is frightening everyone to death and creating the panic yourself, your posts should have a warning:

Danger posts Julie Anne carry a health warning as they might not be true.

So just go and do one.




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25 Jun 2008 8:39 AM by rjmderry Star rating. 70 forum posts Send private message

Action speaks louder than words, especially when the written words are generally abusiveat the current moment

General observation - 

Julie Anne - you mention about dealing with facts and then you state San Jose are finished ! Is this a fact ?

As I mentioned in an earlier post we all have to wait before the administrators make a decision and propose this to the creditors which is made up of people who want their properties and people who want their cash as well as the banks whom along with San Jose didn't give the majority of us with bank guarantees.

FACTS :

This will cost us money to be represented through this process
This will cause anxiety and stress but we can help each other if we are supportive and factual.

We are going to Spain next week for 3 weeks and hopefully, I can get a better feel with what is going on but fact - I will enjoy my holiday with my family.

Life is not a rehearsal (can't spell).

Have a good day all.


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25 Jun 2008 12:19 PM by alm Star rating. 142 forum posts Send private message

"My very last posting on this as I'm sick to death of you and ALM!!"
Is that the very last, the very very last, or like SJ just keep on making idle promises?

"Who the hell do you think you are, you don't know SJ are finished unless"
Surely, anyone with any sense realises that it is an opinion and not fact, just the same as those who comment that they will get their house.

"Danger posts Julie Anne carry a health warning as they might not be true."
Maybe, as are those who say the development will be completed.



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25 Jun 2008 7:19 PM by TonyMal Star rating in Oxfordshire. 1090 forum posts Send private message

Hi All,
 are you not pleased that you have not purchased in a property bubble reliant upon xpats rather than having local purchasers.
Tony
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25 Jun 2008 8:10 PM by laganside Star rating. 19 forum posts Send private message

Hola todos,
I have watched this discussion disintergrate into a slagging match over the last few days. Wishing for ones house is a laudable aspiration , and people who want their money back are entitled to go down that route.  Get all the information you need and make your decision.  Remember San Jose have for the last 4 years given us :
PALABRAS - PALABRAS - PALABRAS  : WORDS - WORDS - WORDS
MENTIRAS - MENITRAS - MENTIRAS :  LIES - LIES  - LIES
Use the links that have been given on this forum to inform yourselves. A lot of information out there.
Don't shoot the messenger.
hasta luego.


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