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26 Mar 2010 8:05 PM by Val123 Star rating. 71 forum posts Send private message

Glad to see you've still got a sense of humour about this




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28 Mar 2010 3:46 PM by MTH Star rating. 34 forum posts Send private message

Hi..Lovely day in Tabernas..Fab for walking the dog...Thought I'd take some pictures as Carmen hasn't yet..Good to see it moving forward..Much better that a pile of sand too!

That's if I find out how to!




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28 Mar 2010 4:57 PM by Val123 Star rating. 71 forum posts Send private message

Hi MTH

 

Welcome to the forum.  Are you a buyer on OCC or did you originally purchase on ACC?

 

To post photos, I think you simply click on the third symbol from the right (when you reply to a post look at the top of the box) and take it from there

 

Look forward to seeing the photos




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28 Mar 2010 5:53 PM by Ran Star rating in Shropshire. 46 forum posts Send private message

He isn't a buyer at OCC or ACC !

MTH joined coincidentaly around the same time as carmen ?

Maybe you could help carmen with some action photo's for all these good people when your walking your dog?

Also MTH could you ask her to reply to a couple of questions that have been asked?

She has not been on the forum for a while.

 

Thank You

 

Ex ACC ......who would like to see results for these good people.




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28 Mar 2010 6:11 PM by Ran Star rating in Shropshire. 46 forum posts Send private message

While I am on..

Firstly as I have said before I am an ex ACC buyer who by ..LUCK.. and nothing else had our money back after 2 years.

This was a traumatic time which nearly ruined my family, as you will all understand !

The reason being we paid our first payment which luckily was Bank guaranteed and then the build was shut down,before Aldea luckily sent our second payment which would not have been covered.

I have since all those years ago followed this thread from.. Almanzorra Country Club.

I find it strange that Rowlands has not supported this new re start as he has had a lot of criticism in the past.

Personally i would have posted photo's and said............... ' I told you so'

I do hope he is in good health and has a reason to avoid posting because it does not make sense?

You need someone who is actually going out there to support Carmen's postings.

 

Once again...Good luck

 

 

 

 

 

 




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28 Mar 2010 6:25 PM by MTH Star rating. 34 forum posts Send private message

Thanks Val..Found it ok...Sorry to hear though that Ran thinks I'm something to do with the development.  He is right although I don't know how he'd know unless he read my previous posts....I am not a buyer..

Not sure what action photos he has in mind but the most action when I'm walking my dog is...the dog!!!  Photos that I uploaded were taken today...

If I had realised that it would be the cause of a problem...I would not have bothered to post the pictures..

I am only an interested party whom wants to see what is at the moment an eyesore ..completed.  I was upfront in the beggining... sorry that is was missed .. I am not a buyer nor do I know Carmen...

I had no idea until I found this forum accidently trying to find any imformation about the Oasis that there were so many  'injured' parties from the project.  I understand the doubt about who I am so perhaps I shall keep quiet from now on... However I do wish all of you in getting whatever you hope from the people that have let you down so badly.

I live here and it was no problem for me to report back to you in so doing I'd hoped to be an observer for you as I can only imagine how awful it must feel to have lost money in a venture that you had hoped would give you a place in the sun.  May I appologise for what must seem tho be interfering.

All the best to you all in the future.  I too would love to see good results for you all in the futre.




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28 Mar 2010 6:36 PM by Ran Star rating in Shropshire. 46 forum posts Send private message

Hi MTH

I feel this is a cop out????

You have been posting on here to say how you have seen the builders, the bricks etc ?

Now someone has challenged you to support this you are now saying sorry I am interfering...Very Clever

IF you were trying to help buyers in this development YOU would post pictures wouldn't you??

You apparantly walk past this development with your dog!

Why wouldn't you pop in to speak to Carmen?... It's only natural..

You both want to help people.

As I have said..someone needs to go and see the state of play and pop in to see Carmen.

Why Have You No Forum Profile ?
 



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28 Mar 2010 6:49 PM by MTH Star rating. 34 forum posts Send private message

Hi Ran,

Sorry that you think that it is a cop out but I have no idea how I can disprove your allegations..I am nothing to do with the project..If I were they must be paying a lot for me to work Sunday...

I can understand your doubt but I am not opting out for any other reason other than not wanting to antagonise anyone..Especially people that I feel very sorry for..I don't mean that in a patronising way by the way..I hear your anger and totally understand it.

We were lucky and bought our place 7 years ago and love the place but we had none of the awful things happen to us whilst be were purchasing.  I really do hope that everyone has a good out come from this.  If anyone wants to know what I can see then they only have to ask and I will do what I can..Bar going on site and talking to Carmen..Who as I said I donot know..Had you seen earlier posts you may have seen that she was upset with me for saying that I hadn't seen life there...Still that's by the by...




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28 Mar 2010 7:05 PM by Ran Star rating in Shropshire. 46 forum posts Send private message

Hi MTH

Just to enlighten you !

People started out by purchasing on ACC.

We all got ripped off by Huma and the introduction agents. The build got stopped by the Andulucia government because of building permits.

People have lost their life savings because of this through no fault of thir own. ' Living the dream' ......... people even encouraged others to purchase...Imagine that guilt.

If you do want to help people ....do not turn your back on them..post action photo's with builders, cranes, mixers...not still photo's.

If I have offended a genuine person then please do not take offence ...

These buyers have gone through far more than that!

IF you can help...genuinely....................

then keep posting....




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28 Mar 2010 7:22 PM by MTH Star rating. 34 forum posts Send private message

Hi Ran,

To get the shots that I have put on today I have had to go on private land.  I was happy today to get closer pictures but I am not equipped to take movies..I am sorry but I hear what you say about being in cohoots with them but I am NOT!  You also seem to think that my pictures sell the properties..Can't imagine how. It looks like at the moment there are about 36 being built, 18 in front 18 behind... I have seen the construction change noted it and taken pictures..As I said only trying to help keep people posted.
I have have no idea of what else they are going to build just that they are completeing what is an eyesaw of partly built houses on the beautiful landscape.

I do know what was offered on the last project for the Oasis and have seen Andalucian Papers that agreed 800 places.  I have no idea however what is proposed for this project..Sorry.




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28 Mar 2010 7:46 PM by Ran Star rating in Shropshire. 46 forum posts Send private message

Hi MTH

I think you are getting confused...???

I did not say you were in cahoots ?

ALL I said was could you take some photo's of..... bricks, cranes, mixers etc...anything that can show buyers that their properties are being built.

Why would this be in secret?  I am not saying trespass?

Carmenen posts on here

..Why does she not do it ?

She works for Huma...

You are just someone who walks your dog past OCC...?

Have a word with her on Monday as you walk past !




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28 Mar 2010 8:14 PM by MTH Star rating. 34 forum posts Send private message

OK Ran..

This is my last reply to you..It is you who are confused..Possibly you donot know the layout of the site...The properties to the front were the ones that were completed on the outside at least...The show houses...two completed were to the back.  The project is fenced off...To get to see at the rear where the 'houses' are being built you need to go on site or to the side outside the fence.....One side is too far away to get a picure..The other is next to private land...Someones back garden as it were!  What are you talking about..being in secret..Look I was trying to help...You don't need it so why are you so hell bent on being so antagonistic towards me?

As for asking Carmen..You do it...I have no intention of getting involved any further...You sound as if you are looking to vent your anger may be a good idea to do so at some one who isn't trying to help!  In fact if you work for Huma then you have done your job of putting me off...Well done...I am pleased that you have your money back and as I have said before hope that the rest of the people concerned get what they are looking for.

As you say I'm just some one who walks my dog not damaged by what has occured here....




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28 Mar 2010 8:30 PM by Val123 Star rating. 71 forum posts Send private message

Hi MTH

 

Have you posted the pics yet?  Looking forward to seeing them

Regards

Val

 




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28 Mar 2010 8:39 PM by MTH Star rating. 34 forum posts Send private message

Hi Val..Photos are posted..the 4 last picures were taken today...As you may be anle to see the construcyion of the end one differs from the originals...

Hope that you are in a good position and that it is more uplifting rather than disturbing to see the photos..As I have said before ...To me it is great to see the project moving forward ...I am sorry however to have been irritating to others that was really not my intention..I really do wish you all well and feel very disterbed that so many have been so badly treated.




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28 Mar 2010 8:58 PM by fighter Star rating in Mazarron Country Clu.... 5 forum posts Send private message

Hi all

I can confirm that there is activity at Tabernas... a week ago last Friday I drove down there from Mazarron Country Club to see for myself.

I haven't purchased on there but have a vested interest in ensuring that IF the cheats that are Huma have money, they spend it first where they started here at MCC and have failed to complete the development.

Not looking for sympathy as we can and will do our own battles but as a wealth warning to anyone down at Tabernax or ACC if that ever gets off the ground again..DO NOT GIVE HUMA ANY MORE MONEY UNTIL:

1. You have an Escitura and the title is checked very thoroughly by a very independant Abogado, Huma have sold houses and taken the money here that have ultimately been proven to be mortgaged to the hilt.... court does not have any affect on this company they just ignore the rulings.

2. You have a Habitacion Certificate... DO NOT ACCEPT a promise of it will be ready in xxx months.... owners here have been waiting more than 5 years in some cases and without that document getting Mains electric and Mains water is extremely difficult if not impossible.

3. You have mains electricity... Huma has more than one year ago stopped supplying diesel generated electricity and the owners here have had to adopt the system with electricity costs 40% higher than normal mains electricity plus generator hire costs.

4. You have a normal water contract with the local supplier (Tabernas Ayuntamiento can advise the supplier) DO NOT ACCPET A CONTRACT FROM HUMA OR A COMPANY CALLED ANTALSUR ( a Huma owned company) Huma want to control the services and obviously make money from the same, at MCC we still do not have a regularised water supply 7 years after the first residents moved in.

5. The roads on you particular manzana are completed.... we still have roads that are in some cases dangerous and Huma says he has no money to spend.

Whatever you have already invested and feel aggrieved about will be aggravated many times over with every extra  £ or € that you plough into the project.... he is a crook who has no shame, apart from not finishing MCC he now owes the community almost €200,000 of community fees despite having his luxury sales office located  here.... there is such a saying as good money after bad, easy for me to say I know but nonetheless true.

If you desperately need a home in Spain, cut your losses and look for one of the many properties held on the books of the banks that are desperate to sell almost at any cost... don't line the pockets of this crook, Spain is a lovely place to live but having Huma on your shoulders will destroy the pleasure.

For your info I didn't take pictures whilst there.. they would not have been of interest as they look like sheds, they are prefab concrete buildings, there were 3 cars and what appeared no more than 5 workers on site including Carmen who gave us a very lovely brochure of how Tabernas Oasis will never look...no prices.

By the way it is rather difficult to find because the sign at the start of the dirt track that leads there has only very very small text relating to Tabernax Oaisis..... I wonder why.

There are no roads completed...if you check out other urbanisations roads , paths, street lights drains etc etc go in first, not here at Tabernas... I wonder why.

There are very few building materials at Tabernas and I have since been told that the very large brickworks , turn left out of the field on the main road, is an investor... drive past his factory and you will see millions of brcks in stock but hardly any at Tabernas....I wonder why.

I am happy to converse with any of you unfortunate people that have been conned by this crooked developer but the mazarron Country Club is determined to stop him

1.Spending our money elswhere.

2.Cheating other expats from all over Northern Europe.

I hope you take heed for your own sake, many ACC customers have come to MCC and Huma has lots of properties still unsold, he can't offer you one because they are the property of the banks that he is indebted to.

2 weeks ago I paid for a financial report on the company, he last entered accounts in 2007, here is a summary.

Shareholders funds........................................ €4.3 million

Fixed assets......................................................€12.3 million

Debts..................................................................€108 million

Oustanding court cases still unpaid............€758,000

Don't be conned, you will never receive your dream from Huma but you will pay for it.

 

Regards

 

RedRobin

 

 



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28 Mar 2010 11:20 PM by Val123 Star rating. 71 forum posts Send private message

 

Hello Fighter

 

Very useful and informed post - thanks




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29 Mar 2010 10:27 AM by Oasis Thabernax CC _ Carmen Star rating in España. 26 forum posts Send private message

Hello,


I started to read and  saw many messages , I am very busy and that is the reason because i am not writting in the forum.

Why is everybody asking me for the pictures? I uploaded them two times  the 15th of March and one more the 18th.So please check them. I will take more whe i have more time.

 

I also have to answer many of the messages and questions  that  have been posted in the forum, don´t worry i will do it when i  can.

 

Carmen.



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29 Mar 2010 2:05 PM by Philmel Star rating. 214 forum posts Send private message

Load as many pictures as you like !! Do you think this will entice people to buy from your company ?

You need to get your act together  - fast.

Start with MCC then ACC...........

Terrible , aweful example of Spainish Property developing........... Must have cost your own country billions in lost revenue.




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29 Mar 2010 3:13 PM by Val123 Star rating. 71 forum posts Send private message

Just seen pics, thanks

 

Not exactly inspiring me with confidence though - looks like a prison block

Not a patch on what the ACC was

Has OCC been partially landscaped?  That's usually the first thing they do

 




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30 Mar 2010 4:38 PM by ILostMySensaHuma Star rating. 87 forum posts Send private message

Thanks to Fighter for the accounts details.

Looks like a huge amount of debt which I assume accounts for the mortgages on the land and unsold properties.

On the bright side, it is in the interests of everyone who is owed that €108 million that Huma doesn't go under... 




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