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I, along with many other, don't so much think of it as a farce, but are aware that it is.
I too have a question, what is the difference between SARC and sark.
Appreciate if someone could educate me.
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Hi all,
what if the company does go into liquidation
Almundena stated that there is 12 million in the account as stated in the report
now 12.000,000 divided by 1700 purchasers= €7058.82 each
i know what I want
how about the rest of you
brianmags
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Hello Everyone,
I know of people who have tried to get the money back even with guarantee unsuccessfully. Now with the recent money crisis i imagine things will be even harder. I would like very much to invite all previous purchasers of San Jose to please post on this forum if having asked for their money back, have they actually received it.
We here of so many trying to get their money back but how many have actually got it?
If anyone has then please let us all know
As for me I WANT MY HOUSE I aint daft you know
FAR
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Hi FN,
rather than posting rather childish remarks ( i did mention pointless one upmanship) why do you not try to explain to us all about getting the money back. I have asked this a couple of times and no one has yet explained.
KR
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Why would one deem it childish to ask a reasonable and sensible question.
You ask about getting your money back. Don't you realise there is more chance of getting a house than that and in my opinion, having read all which has been made available and discussed matters in Spain with informed personnel, the chances of that are nil.
If you open the window, you will find there is a big world out that, much of which is in turmoil financially.
If you read the recent events regarding a giant of the property sector, Martinsa-Fadesa, you will realise that even those whose core sector is not the second home purchaser are in dire straights, so what of a company who relies on the leisure sector.
I believe many are in denial, as who really wants to believe they have taken a hit for 30-40-80,000€
If Martinsa-Fadesa could not convince funders to refinance, don't see that they will have too much sympathy towards SJ, those who want their house, or money.
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Hi FN,
the childish bit is going on about a typo.
As for your reply about getting the money back are you saying that you have more chance getting your house rather than the money?
KR
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Please educate me further. Where have even mentioned a typo, let alone go on about it.
Touch of paranoia here I believe.
Regarding me commenting you have more chance getting your house rather than the money, yes, and the chance of getting money is nil. Before commenting on the mathematical theory, please think twice or maybe three times. This message was last edited by FriendinNeed on 7/18/2008.
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Hi FN,
You have short term memory loss. You mentioned SARC or sark.....typo!
Thanks for agreeing with the SARC thinking that getting our money back is not viable. We do have more of a chance of getting our properties because we have money that people want and only get it if they build SADM. By the way your very relaxed attitude towards every one loosing everything makes me think that you are not a purchasers at SADM. Is that correct?
KR
Tony
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Now why have I short term memory loss, a civilised question of SARC or sark, as both have been written many times.
If it makes you happy that there is more chance of getting a house that the money, good on you, doesn't take much to make you happy, just the odd fairytale. Perhaps you do not realise the implication or outcome when the comparable is zero.
You say you have money that people want and only get it if they build SADM. I say you had money that people wanted, they took it, now many have to face the consequences.
I am amazed that you are able to determine the nature of my attitude from just a few postings. Very clever that.
So why is it I should not be a purchaser at SADM?
Do you think I am too sensible to buy, too mad not to buy. Please tell.
May I wish you every success with your campaign, but I do find it concerning that your reports are completely contradictory to the findning from meetings and enquiries in Spain, in the last 2 weeks, so best we leave it at that and let you go your own way and I go mine. This message was last edited by FriendinNeed on 7/18/2008.
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Hi FN,
Thanks for the maths, can we do quantum or stirng theory next. As for the real world funny things happen and people succeed against all the odds lots of times. Its really lucky that those of us in SARC have a back bone and will fight tooth and nail for what is ours. As for you FN, I take it by your lack of reply, that you are not a purchasers at SADM?
KR
Tony This message was last edited by TonyMal on 7/18/2008.
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But quantum or string theory cannot be applied in matters such as company funding, as no doubt you will be aware.
Regarding ownership, if it keeps you amused, enjoy your game.
In the event of a non-prospective purchaser wishing to post, is that forbidden, are all posters purchasers?
Do fight tooth an nail for waht is yours, but what is yours?
Do you own the plot, do you own the sub-structure?
You may own your cash, but can you access it?
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I think what FN is trying to say is simply this chance of getting money = nil chance of getting house = nil chance of getting anything = nil reading the press recently I am afraid I have to agree with him . Anyone feeling optimistic of a good outcome now has to be either in denial or just plain foolish.
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I asked three simple questions and asked that they were answered in a simple way.
I asked about membership in SARC and asked it in a simple way.
I got a load of rubbish from you and feel you are trying to produce some kind of smokescreen, and i dont know why.
I am really concerned now about the sarc website and the reason its there. I am thinking the people starting the website are fairly desperate people...but i dont know why? The membership is secret and the numbers are cuckoo, nothing is factual, its all hidden.
Were you selling properties on the SA site and taking comissions? perhaps......do you owe some kind of debt of gratitude to other purchasers?
Im confused here...you avoid any sensible questions in order to further a personal aim....and i dont understand why?
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Far
Thanks for your post....you are right, no one has any evidence of getting their money back....even from bank gaurantees.
No one has got a house handed over either, since the administration.
It would be very hard to watch a house nearly finished, go to rack and ruin while the financiers sort things out. I have seen things like that happen though.......as i said weeks ago, be carefull.
If you get a house and have to start paying mortgage.....and the services are not in place...its even worse than now.....
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Tony
You asked me a direct question about how long have i been trying to get my money back. I have the ability to answer questions directly because i have no hidden agendas or hidden personal ambitions.
I have been trying to get my money back since October 2007. It was agreed by San Jose that we could have it back. They used some excuses to delay the return of our money. Eventually in February San Jose said we could have our money back in June 2008.
When a week later i asked what date, they said we were too late and it would now be July 10th 2008. I agreed, reluctantly, and they promptly went into administration.
Tell me now why did you ask, what is the problem about me being a buyer in Albatetra and you being a buyer in SA.
Maybe you will see now why i was making a reference to being a 'gang' thing.
Now i have answered a question directly.....maybe you can please. Where is the membership form you speak of, for the SARC site...and please tell me how many have filled this out and enrolled
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Briando
Thanks for your post
We have both gone through similar things, me just recently transferring from Albatera and you i think still with Albatera. Yes exactly same thing when we asked for the money back before the transfer, we got to the stage of promised pagare (form of cheque) then promises of post dated cheques none of which we were happy about! but i am sure like yourself you felt you had no option than to accept it.
The last meeting we had with San Jose we were told ok you can have a cheque but it will take about 1 month they could not just hand it over, having loved El Pinet we decided on the transfer.
My husband said but your cheques are bouncing because of insufficient funds to which there was a look of horror and silence, we knew at that meeting we would not get the money.
I am aware about the problems that can occur after completion, i know about all of that but i am still hoping for a positive end to El Pinet and i have always been prepared for the worst scenario. If the worst happens then i will pick myself up dust myself off and get on with my life and enjoy each day. At least i am not queing up for a bowl of rice once a week
FAR (hoping for the best, prepared for the worst)
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Briando
I think you hit the nail on the head in one of your previous posts .I dont think they have ben selling houses for SJ and are waiting for commision or have an obligation to other purchasers however they have been promised something in the way of personal gain and it is not the first time SJ have used this tactic . It has happened before but the person involved was too smart to bite the cherry. I think it is a shame they got to the Times journalist and hope they have not down played the situation as once again they may have done more harm than good and aided SJs corner. This message was last edited by julie anne on 7/19/2008.
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Hi Far
I think you have made the best you possibly can from the situation, my feeling is your house will get finished, being so progressive.
Even if you take it at its current state and negotiate the end payment, you are in some control and can finish it yourself if needed, if you need a joiner let me know!
Good on yer, best wishes......i would like to be in your position, rather than any others i think.....small-ish site, less finance required as a project, it seems to stack up favourably.
Even if the builder goes bust at a site like yours will have a reasonable basis for profit, therefore the finance should be easier than most to put in place when the financial world gets real again.
Brian This message was last edited by briando55 on 7/19/2008.
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