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16 Jun 2010 10:20 AM by nigela Star rating. 415 forum posts Send private message

Oh well - it will be August soon and as we all know everything stops in Spain in August.  Mind you it cat stop at OCC - not unless it restats before then.

I am so glad I didn't take Rowlands up on his offer of a rental next summer - dont fancy a night under the stars in a desert in August in the middle of a building site.




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17 Jun 2010 3:26 PM by Seashells Star rating in Suffolk / Limaria. 81 forum posts Send private message

I feel that i should speak up in support of and on behalf of Rowland bb, A man of character, warm, friendly, maturing well, always as a smile for someone and always willing to help people when in need. No that was not Rowland, that is me, I could'nt  find anything nice to say about Rowland. Or should we say Sir Rowland of Huma, the knight who fights for the honour of Huma against a barrage of comments from people who have lost a fortune




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25 Jun 2010 9:20 PM by Ran Star rating in Shropshire. 46 forum posts Send private message

I hope this is now back on track and the build is progressing well........Otherwise..

 

Rowlandsbb......You need to change your advertisement as it states...

 

ready mid 2010




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27 Jun 2010 7:50 PM by Ran Star rating in Shropshire. 46 forum posts Send private message

Now then rowlandsbb

I have just been down memory lane as my daughter has to take photo's of when she was a baby to school.

Some of photo's that came up was of when we were out in Almeria buyng our 'dream'n in ACC.

You are on Forums giving your 'professional' insight on where to buy and why?

What can you tell other buyers on here now about the situation after all you are an agent promoting this development.

 

 



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27 Jun 2010 8:59 PM by MTH Star rating. 34 forum posts Send private message

Hi Friends..Really sorry to be so long in replying but I hav been in the UK...I am also very sorry to tell you that there is still no sign of work going on at the Oasis.....Really nothing else that I can say...Sorry.




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27 Jun 2010 9:06 PM by Ran Star rating in Shropshire. 46 forum posts Send private message

Sorry MTH for dissing you before but i thought you were in with  Carmen from OTCC.

Please let everyone know what you see?

This is a Tradgedy




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29 Jun 2010 11:49 AM by Ran Star rating in Shropshire. 46 forum posts Send private message

Rowlandsbb

Could you please explain to everyone on this thread who are worried about the future of OTCC and the ex buyers on ACC .....

 How you have never offered them the chance that you are offering buyers on another development.

You state that you are an owner yourself ( No your not...yet )

You claim to be able to help them get justice in their problematic development despite them having no BG? ( How)

You are offering to head a group and source legal action for around 4.000€

Why are you not getting involved with Huma Brian and using this expert knowledge for the good of these buyers?




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29 Jun 2010 3:38 PM by rowlandsbb Star rating in Gloucestershire &Hue.... 780 forum posts Send private message

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First some facts and if you do a little more research you will find it!

 

I own a property near Huercal Overa- the builder was slow and 9 months late and I had a financial penalty clause to cover that

When I received the deeds I kept a substantial retention to cover the completion of the infrastructure

I was fortunate that the developer did not go into administration like so many others in Spain but at one time I think it was touch and go and it took quite a lot of effort and time to make sure that the villa was completed and I received the deeds

 

You will also find out that I purchased another property where the development was mothballed and I received my 30% deposit back via a bank guarantee plus interest @ 6% for two years – legal cost of achieving this was 1000 € and it took circa 3 months

 

Many ACC buyers have been in touch with me direct and I have explained my own reasons but I have also, both on this forum, and privately stated that ‘ if you have a BG then you should cash it in’

 

Otherwise, get to know the facts and make your own mind up

 

Can you remind readers of the Thread how much money you have at risk and the current situation regarding your legal case, if you have gone down that route

 

 

Now as to me offering my professional services to buyers with problems on ACC or OTCC, I can not get involved as there would naturally be a ‘ conflict of interest’ as a person who has changed from ACC to OTCC

 

In the development you refer to, I quoted an ‘initial budget fee ‘ of 4.000 € to cover the cost of the initial meeting of an Action Group, dealing with the appointment of competent lawyers and setting up the strategy

The cost of a ‘Group Action’ is very much more expensive than this figure!

 

Posters have talked about a Group Action on various ACC Threads but there has never been much positive enthusiasm and most buyers seem to have gone down their own route

 

I have nothing more to add re OTCC at the moment besides what I have posted recently and only your ‘ lack of attention to detail and research’ and you implied rudeness, meant that I should set the record straight

 

 

 

 



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29 Jun 2010 5:09 PM by Ran Star rating in Shropshire. 46 forum posts Send private message

You have still not posted any information regarding OTCC?

As an agent you should be up to speed with exactly what is happening on site and it's progression.

The users here have no information coming through..

 




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29 Jun 2010 6:58 PM by Bri Star rating in North. 591 forum posts Send private message

 Yes Rowlandsbb, but your post said that OCC was a done deal and therefore nothing to say.   What we are querying is whether this is the case or not, and you seem to be reluctant to get into that.  As someone who has already been advertising their property on OCc as available to  rent, surely you have some insight to share about what is going on.  



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29 Jun 2010 7:42 PM by Michael w Star rating in Stourbridge & Mazarr.... 10 forum posts Send private message

Huma have moved heavy machinery to the Mazarron Country Club this week and have started ground works to build 64 tarifa style houses on area 38.

Maybe he wants people to transfer from ACC via OTCC to MCC where he has planning permissions in place.

 Huma seem to be moving money around like Robert Maxwell.




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29 Jun 2010 7:50 PM by reidpj Star rating. 239 forum posts Send private message

He has indeed, Miguel.  Apparently, they have only a 'Tourist' type Building Licence (they can't be used as a permanent residence), so buyer / swapper beware !!!!!

 

Peter




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30 Jun 2010 12:29 AM by Michael w Star rating in Stourbridge & Mazarr.... 10 forum posts Send private message

Thanks for the additional information Peter

Caveat Emptor

atb Miguel




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30 Jun 2010 1:12 AM by Sparky Star rating in Somerset and Vera. 127 forum posts Send private message

Well!!!  That certainly appears to be better news than we've been getting of late.  Mazarron is certainly a much better location than OCC although could be a problem with the licence for some.  Maybe it also means that Huma  have some assets!!


 



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30 Jun 2010 12:03 PM by nigela Star rating. 415 forum posts Send private message

 A touristic license may not be so bad for those who want to use it as a holiday home - or those who wish to live in Spain for 1/2 ther year and the other half in England.  There was a problem with this sort of licenses at Camposol (just down the road from MCC) several people were very concerned about this but all the agents locally said it isnt really a problem as you just have to be able to put the property up for let - it doesnt have to be let.   Also it does mean you have the legal right to let the property out where as if you do not have a touristic licence you do not have that right.

Mazarron is a much nicer location than OTCC and a Tariffa there would not be so bad - but there has been many problems at MCC not least the fact that a lot of properties have no habituation license and builders electric and water were cut of.  Also the swiming pool  is not part of the community is only open for a couple months of the year and you have to pay to use it.  This would make any property hard to let.

Perhaps Peter could let us know what the current position at MCC is as he transferred from ACC to MCC a couple of years ago.




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01 Jul 2010 5:48 PM by marshall Star rating. 7 forum posts Send private message

We  didn't  like  the location of OTCC  so we transferred from ACC to MCC off plan, beginning  2008.   Our solicitor  confirmed  the plot has full  planning  permission.  Completion  due Oct 2009 and guarantees  within  a month  of  signing the  contract.     As you  can  probably  guess, we  haven't  received  our  guarantees (again) and  the  building  hasn't  started.  We are  pursuing  Huma  through the  courts.  I  wouldn't  buy  anything  off plan from Huma -  be careful.




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01 Jul 2010 7:13 PM by nigela Star rating. 415 forum posts Send private message

 Hi Marshall

Perhaps yours is one of the properties just being started at MCC.

The problem with suing HUMA is when you have won your case getting the money of them.  I paid about 6000 euros to my solicitor about 2 years ago - his bill has now run up another 6000 euros.  For that I have a succesful lawsuit but no money.  So before you go down the legal root have another word with HUMA if you were happy at MCC and they have just started building your property that still may be the preferable option.

 

 




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12 Jul 2010 1:36 PM by nigela Star rating. 415 forum posts Send private message

Hi MTH

 

Any movement at OCC recently?  This site seems to have gone quiet in the last few weeks - anyone heard any more about MCC or OCC?

 

 

 




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12 Jul 2010 3:35 PM by MTH Star rating. 34 forum posts Send private message

Hi Nigela,

Sorry..No movement that I've seen..Would love to be the bearer of better news..However..we could always consider the old addative.."No news is good news!"   I certainly hope that this is true for all of you's...As I have said before...I'm so sorry...




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12 Jul 2010 4:43 PM by Truff Star rating. 46 forum posts Send private message

I was told  by Carmen they are waiting on tile deliveries




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