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Hi All, First time posting on this forum, I think it is a sad day when people turn on others who are trying to do the best they can.
I want my house ( or my money back ). You all talk about the spanish bullshit but thats whats now being served up on most threads. I am not as good as most of you at this sort of posting so all i can say is think of the good samaritin. I would be lost if it was not for the good information from this and other sites, So please lets get back to being at least civil to one another.
I hope everyone gets the result they would like. My life savings are at stake
Best regards.
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Hi Adam and welcome to the postings. Keep posting and tell us what you find out.
Thanks for reminding me of the road to damascas, and i am still laying down in the road, waiting for the spanish to show if they are samaritans to come and throw me on a donkey and save me, or if they are going to be the rich jews to give me a kick and leave me in the road..
We are also waiting for the good people to deliver a report, from the speeches at the last supper, in the never never land of sadm. (and gomorrah?)
And we all have the sword of damaclese over our heads, waiting for the administrators to decide if they are going to play fair or screw us some more.
Its getting biblical in here all of a sudden. This message was last edited by briando55 on 7/13/2008.
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HI Roy82 / Debbie
I knew the meeting was taking place before hand I was informed about the meetings during a casual conversation on another matter, by someone who was attending the meetings. I did not register or realise until afterwards that the meeting was with the leaders of IWMH . I only realised this after the fact in the evening after a call just before Linda's post . When I made the post " why did we not know etc " I had known for some time about the meetings but was throwing an open question to the forum as I was annoyed at the lack of prior information ( IE nil ) that had been given to members of SARC and to purchasers on the forum . It was just after Linda's post that I received a call with information about what was actually discussed at the meetings.
Anyway I am quite sure the version I have will be the same as the IWMH leaders if that is the case there will be no more to say on the matter.
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adamstorrie
Either you are a good friend of Tony and Brian's or you are being coerced or paid to pop out of the wood work .Please don't insult our morals or our intelligence Thank you
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In answer to Lincolns post it was way back but recieved no reply from IWMH as usual , however it may be worth a mention for the info of all . IWMH have some 33 members . Around about 12 are active ish the rest have registered but show no interest that leaves about 2 pro - active members probably Tony and Brian which begs the question just who were they representing on their desperado arduous journey to Spain
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if that is true then you really do need to be careful about what you are saying to the administrators. I know many of your "members" who have legal counsel and are actively seeking their deposits back. let us hope that the administrators do not use your testimony to Emilio in their meeting with him tommorow as if this has been overstated and has any bearing on the administrators arguments with the judge not to give us our money back then I feel you may have put yourself in danger also.
can I ask. did you tell them that you were only representing a maximum of 33 owners (and some of these were actively pursuing their depositis back?)if Julies information is factual.
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Arlene, When you touch on the subject of who did they represent at the meeting it made me think a bit more carefully.
I just re introduced myself to the sarc website aims and objectives, to see the statements and claims on there, and check with reality and current events and claims and numbers.
The link is above this page for reference, check the aims and objectives on page 1.
The front page objectives, which are what the organisation is working towards, in a potted version say that....................
Sant Anna is built, along with the services,............ you can move your deposit from one place to another, ...........if you have financial hardship you can have your money back (without costly or lengthy legal action). These are very impressive claims and must attract people to sign up for the answer to their prayers
Also that there is a committee of 8, with a chair/vice chair/secretary included ( why would someone suffering Flu go all the way to Spain and suffer when there are so many other profiled members able to step in i wondered?). so that is 5 other executive members........
It says that it will support and inform sadm members................. when reading the next paragraph bear this in mind
In which case, who are the committee of 8, who is the chair/vice/secretary....5 other board members? What does support and inform mean, has there been a communication through the sarc site of the visit, to the exec board? to the members?, to anyone? Were the members consulted prior to the visit, did they have the opportunity to have any circulation of questions before going out there?......Was there a list of questions at all.
To comply with the aims and objectives it would be expected to represent all these views, how was this achieved i wonder?
The visit to Spain itself was on the 8th July?....the last newsletter on the sarc site is the 4th July and there is no mention of a visit in that NEWSletter......what kind of organisation is this i wonder.
Then i looked back at the original posting of the visit, (truth, whole truth etc) no disrespect to Linda who was probably contacted late, but it says the notes were being taken and at the meeting were some people whos names cant be remembered?
Never mind about the scepticism we are showing, what do the sarc members think about it now i wonder?
This message was last edited by briando55 on 7/14/2008.This message was last edited by briando55 on 7/14/2008.
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Julie Ann,
If you are so certain that your version of events at the recent meeting will be the same as SARCO , then why not share what you claim to know?
You always appear to have something to say regarding anyone elses posts, mostly negative regardless of what is being said, (and i am sure i will now get slated by you for even daring to have an opinion).You even had a go at Adam for no apparent reason .
You criticise everybody who posts anything that does not follow your line of action.
If what Tony and Brian are doing is of no interest to you, then please, do what most people do and just ignore it.
You have said on more than 1 posting that you know what was said in this meeting.
If you feel able to criticise others for not posting that information ,when you yourself claim to have a version of the event, then i suggest its time to take a long hard look in the mirror.
Either put up or shut up
Vicki
P.S As I know you are so up on punctuation and grammar, I double checked this before posting, i would'nt want to make your job of criticism any easier for you now, would I? This message was last edited by victheviking on 7/14/2008.
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You criticise JA for criticising anyone who posts anything that does not follow her line. But isn't that what everyone does?
Individuals, groups, etc. have an opinion, which they tend to stick by, especially if not influenced by others.
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Julie Anne, I dont know Brian or Tony from Adam. I bought into a dream where i could retire and play the game i love (golf ).I was sure i would meet some like minded people who would share in a game that is all about honesty,integrity and etiquette.
Please feel free to shoot me down as you do with most people who dont agree with your opinions. I hope that in the future you think before you hurt people you dont even know. I have read the report about the meetings in spain and i thank all who attended and yes i still want my house. I dont mind if your sister looks at the grammer and spelling.
Adam Storrie.
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Sorry , no offence meant, if it sounds like i am being critical, i only want to get the facts .
The only reason i bothered to post was because JA insists on telling us she knows what was said at this meeting and yet still fails to publicize what she knows.
Maybe in your eyes , forums are a place where everyone critisizes each other, but i believed a forum was a place for people to hold discussions and post relevant information to help others in their decisions.?
I will not participate in insulting people, but feel that JA should post what info she has. 
Vicki
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Hi Adam
I did exactly the same as you, i have played golf for many years and play off 12, myself and my friends have been dying to get out to Spain and play some golf. The dream is not realised because the builder was greedy (my opinion), the development laws in Spain are corrupt and archaic (my opinion), and they bit off more than they could chew with too many developments,
Now im in this awful tug of war between people wanting to influence builders, administrators and get ordinary golfers like you and me to wave flags around. I dont like it any more than you Adam to be honest.
By the way, you dont know Tony or Brian from Adam (is that biblical again or is it you lol). But you have read the famous report i notice..........come on Adam...tell us a bit about it......serialise it in threads, like a news of the world article....
You could put it under a News of the World type headline......maybe.
'Brits in costa del busto builder trip' Or 'sadm lunch minutes gone missing in the sun'
Any other headlines to lighten the mood??????
And i dont give a stuff about my punctuation.....i went to school.....lol
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Hi Brian and Vic, I was asked not to share information as it will be posted on the sarco site tonight. All i will say is that it cheered me up and gave me some positive vibes. Bye the way my handicap is 6 i am an amputee and i have been captain of my golf club twice. My only biblical phrase comes on the golf course when i say please god let me sink a putt.
Yours in sport.
Adam Storrie.
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Vicky if you look at my previous posts I never said I would post the information I have and there are many reasons including legal that I haven't .One other point I did not criticize grammar or spelling regard posts we all fire them off quickly and often make mistakes .
I did criticize documents that were offered on the SARCO site for people to sign and send out to official persons this type of document must be correct and professionally worded or they are not taken seriously and give the general opinion that purchasers involved in this action are not on the ball so to speak . My offer of help in this area was genuine .
I did criticize IWMH leaders posts which used bold and capitol print which is the equivalent of shouting at people in print and I stand by that as it intimidating and rude .
I will continue to be very angry when any group implies by default or otherwise to represent the majority of purchasers when they do not . I will not stand for this and will take steps to redress the misconception they have created by all means available to me . As it is my legal right to do so.
This message was last edited by julie anne on 7/14/2008.
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I agree that you have never said you would post any info regarding the meeting, but thought that as you already apparently have the information that a lot of people wish to see, that you may at least give us the gist of what you think will be printed.
As for the criticism of grammar, it is posted on this very thread for all to see, albeit in relation to the SARCO documents not the forum, it is still an unhelpful dig for Tony et al that is in the public domain.
If you genuinely want to help Tony and Brian with their grammar, why not P.M the offer rather than post on the forum?
As far as i know SARCO has never made any claims to be supporting the views of the majority of buyers, although i do agree(yes you heard it) with you that legally they do tread a very thin line.
I am not a trouble maker, god i am not even a regular to the site, i just thought that maybe you could at least give us an idea of what you have heard was said at the meeting then at least when we do get the info from SARCO we will all be able to see that you and they have the same info.
This surely will add much needed credibility to the info we receive, will it not?
Vicki
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Morning Tony,Brian and Linda. Respectfully, when will you be publishing the notes from the meeting last week? It doesnt matter that they will be what Julie Ann already knows, we would sincerely all like to read Lindas who was righly excited to inform us last week after you had flown back. There are a number of people from this Forum that, although may not agree with not having prior knowledge and an opportunity to have our voices heard, realise /summise now that this meeting was only for those who Want My House. What else can we think? We have no choice in just accepting the reason for your fact finding mission and being invited, but that doesnt mean we are not interested in hearing about it officially whether it be just your collective take on the findings or not. I dont mind stating my stance at this particular stage. Transfer, money back, sadm last now but only if its absolutely necessary. I dont find it hard to admit my feet are in all camps because I fully intend to look after my/family money first and get a life again. There is no reason you shouldnt want your house, nor is it wrong to want a refund and if transferring to another property is viable and feels right, that's right also. No one has a monopoly and we are all individuals with different circumstances. Please post your information whether we like it or not.
We are all after a resolution to this stressful and costly situation sooner rather than later. In all honestly guys/gals do you think, having met these people face to face, that they would entertain a meeting of a selected group of people who want a Refund or a Transfer ? There are a few grounded people who I would be happy to be represented by on this and the other Forum (and no I dont mean me - ive no money left for a flight and cant even plan a holiday incase its needed for Lawyer costs). Many of us have life savings/or all that we own tied up with this Company. Agents have abandoned us and its costing us for legal advise.
Ok thats me done I'm off to work on my handicap.. my brain.. its ready for a rest!
I may as well apologise now if ive upset someone, didnt agree with someone or havent jumped in a camp. Oh and I dont care if my grammers wrong im dyslexic anyway.
Take care and have a good day each
Sally 
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Hi Sally
I dont think there will be anything new in the notes, i have stopped looking for them now...at a rough guess i would say the main points will be.
Good news....the licences to build are available at the town hall when the funds are paid.
Good news,,,,the administrators have said that given adequate financing the builders can carry on building
Good news....the builder can build the infrastructure to the development if there are enough buyers interested
Good news....there is enough irrigation to support a golf course
Good news....the sun'l come out tommoraa
Bad news.......there is no bad news....repeat...no bad news...there is no need to ask or think about selling houses at this time, re-sales value figures are for wimps, there is no problem getting mortgages, there is no problem with letting out your property because everyone still wants a holiday in Spain, The builder has done everything they can to protect us and our money, they will be completely exonerated and all your money will have been safe all the time, they only bounced cheques for your own good, the Spanish building industry is really well organised,,,,,,,lassie will come home, glen miller will turn up and we will all live happily ever after.
Thats my prediction....
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Sally, Im with you, I have my feet in all camps, house, transfer, or money back. I want whatever is achievable and the least time consuming, which protects my money, and doesn`t line other peoples pockets in the process! At this moment I don`t care which one it is, I just want a result ,so I can get on with my life and I dont have to spend hours sitting in front of a screen looking for the latest information on this dire situation which we all find ourselves in. Cheers Joanniemac
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