El Pinet

As for the person you spoke to after the meeting, I know who this is and his name is Pat and not Roger and I shall go and speak to him tomorrow about this.

As to your last comment - I can't believe you have said this as you know it is an absolute lie. This was never said by us at any time to anyone. Does anyone really think that if my husband had done this that we would be stating it openly in public for everyone to hear.

You "madam" are an out and out liar

I have always respected the right of people to state their views on the situation here at El Pinet whether I agree with what is said or not but now you are getting into the realms of fantasy and it is getting completely out of hand when people like you actually lie to be believed. 

I think that m2lou made a good point about the administrators that have been appointed by the committee. El Pinet residence and the committee do run the risk of gaining no money out of this. As the administrators are a firm who will get their cost first. After all they are connected to the CAM bank.

I thought back along we were going to get someone legal and take action, this is what is needed. EP will never clear the debt they way its going. SJ are back in the black thanks to EP.

Hi again 9p.

Agree with your comments. Sj back in the black...trading....so it is their debts,( it was never anyone elses) , ....I was told when signing for my property, In the office of the notary, that I would have my CoH  'within one month'  and that they SJ would pay for the services until such time as we obtained the CoH. The ' dirty money' then changed hands. This will, no doubt cost you or me when we sell. So no regrets. Norman Lamont put it better!       

m2lou........you must be loosing your psychic powers...Fancy not knowing that 2 people were using the same name.......
 

How familiar your comments are VM. I can remember the same thing being said prior to the bag of €500 being past over. Mind you the notory wasn't there but they must be aware of this.

I'm not sure if my property has gained/lost value, there is the land value as well. But I'm sure it will work in the authority's favour on selling.

I am tempted to put my property on the market, to hell with my New Year's resolution.

Calm down, calm down, eh eh eh eh

he said, she said..................what's the point?

As always time will tell........hold your nerve......................

My name is Roger and I attended the AGM and stood at the back of the hall on the right hand side.  I was the one who spoke to the administrator in relation to my property being targeted by other residents by way of having its services disconnected.  I attended the whole meeting and I know for a fact I was the only peson who raised this issue.  I know that Mick was present at the AGM but at the time I spoke he had left the meeting with others to go outside, so how he can claim to know who spoke is completely incorrect.  I was approached outside by a lady and we had a very brief discussion.  I did say to her that I was unhappy with the new member of our committee as I believed that he was responsible for the disconnetion of services at my property.  I know others have been put in the same position and maybe Pat is one of them, but I must clarify the position as it was myself who raised this at the AGM and no one else.  I was disconnected on several occasions, on 2 of these occasions I became aware of the situation immediately, on one occasion Mick was in the vicinity of the service boxes and on the other I saw him rushing in the direction of his property.  Of course I have no direct evidence, if I did I would have taken the matter further but I do not believe in coincidences, hence my conclusion.

I am moving soon, but get ready to form a proper representative leader 

Thank you DI and Rolypoly for your interest and messages.

Soon! ......Do I need professionals or is it DIY

I don't mind my services being turned off if I not there, but if you are in residence then I would look on it as a violation. The irrigation system has been used only at the start when we moved in. I haven't used it for the last two years as it means the plants grow to quickly and they need cutting back, more work less beer and olives!

I visited my apartment today and took a walk around the El Pinet site.  I looked at the 3 pools, one of the gates were locked but I could see from where I stood that the pool had a third of its water missing.  This must be the one with the leak.  The other two I was able to walk around and both of them had tiles missing from within their pools, which is very surprising as they are not very old.  One of these two were full of worms and even though the water in all pools was clear, the areas within the pools had not been vacumed for sometime.  Whoever is responsible for issuing the contracts for the cleaning of these pools needs to take this in hand as a matter of urgency.

I was also concerned at the amount of additional development that owners have carried out to their properties.  Do they not undersand that this will interfere with us getting habitation certificates.  I spoke to a couple whilst walking around and mentioned this to them and they said "it will be ok all you need to do is pay a fine".  This is a misconception that most people have.  All this work will need to be undone, but looking at all the work that still needs to be carried out to finish this development, I am sure they have much time in hand.  

The pools should never have been handed over with the problems they have got. If the committee have excepted them, this is where the money should be going. Not to the profits of SJ and Iberdola. 

I would have though the pools would have been drained through the winter months as the pumps would not be running. There is a health and safety issue, not that counts for anything.

I am looking to come out in a few weeks time and I don't mind admitting it that I am dreading it. I am only coming out to see how the property has faired through the winter, meet up with some people and look at putting the place on the market.

Agree with 9P and DL   Why would anybody of sound mind accept and then take responsibility for faulty goods?

Let SJ fulfil their resposibilities and let them pay for it

.I Think the 'contract' might be cancelled.  More trouble???

 Maybe some thought servicing them was a good idea for last summer.  

 Had it something to do with rental income.........

This message was last edited by victor meldrew on 01/02/2011.

The pools need water in them so that the water pressure on the walls of the pools are constant.  To drain them could cause more problems than maintaining them with water in situ.  Thats the advice I have been given at my home that has a pool.  A pool cover is more cost effective in the long run as the pool only needs to be run for an hour each week to keep the water from going stagnant .  I would argue that the pools have not been handed over and can't be until all work at the site is complete.  There will always be snagging problems but the condition of the pools especially the one that is alloted to the apartments is much worse than the other that I was able to see.  I will also add that both pools that I was able to see had interior pool lights with exposed wires resting on the ledge by the side of the pools.  My understanding from my own pool is that the current is very low voltage and does not pose a health and safety issue but nevertheless it was very unacceptable by anybody's standards. 

I don't believe now is the time to sell.  There are many properties here for sale, easy to buy very hard to sell, that has been my experience when dealing with properties in Spain.  With the additional problems of our complex I regretfully say easy to buy impossible to sell.  

Victor

You are too cynical.  The pools are obviously needed more during the summer months when most non-resident owners are there. It has very little if nothing to do with rental income. Agree that SJ should be responsible but we are where we are. Look at the El Pinet website for the latest update. Hope your move goes well.

Non residences, includes outsiders and travellers who use the pools? Note: not friends, family and visitors.

There should be a mention for the volunteers who have keeped the pool maintenance going. But this is wrong as we haemorrhage money in other areas. Why?

Afraid this is a catch 22 situation. Until we can afford to provide some sort of monitoring especially during the peak periods it will always be difficult to keep unwanted visitors out.

 I agree the volunteers deserve a mention  but they are only able to keep the pool areas clean and tidy. Maintenance of the pools themselves are an entirely different matter and costs money. I assume this is the reason why the current contract has been suspended. As I said previously SJ should be responsible and I am sure the committee are trying all avenues in an attempt to resolve the matter.

Again I suggest you look at the details for the last committee meeting on the El Pinet website.

I am hoping this post moves me to the top! It has....I moved up to the atico 

 I have become more cynical as I have aged,....Its due to being let down so many times.

just had an e-mail about sending 100 a month. Unifying the water and the electricity with the community fee....not legal. Only COMMUNITY ASSETS are applicable for the community fee. When CoH happens.  €18000 for one pool.  OMG I am in the wrong business.  The only winners in this Rix farce will be the ones that are charging......

There is new information on the old blog. Anyone understand it?

This message was last edited by victor meldrew on 02/02/2011.

This message was last edited by victor meldrew on 03/02/2011.

VM,

It is good to see a true and well balance statement of fact, I indorse what you say. I will add to it that I though we were going to employ the service of a solicitor from the village. It the legal side that needs sorting not paying out money to mark time.

Here is something to discuss and I'm not trying to scare anyone. Is El Pinet legal and the properties on MR9. Legal people step forward, the answer could effect us all.

Are we paying for something that could be taken away by law?