VM

I think you have summed it up quit succinctly.

9_P

Just received this from the Presidents, please pass on to any owners you know. I assume an email proxy vote is acceptable.

Dear All
 
You should receive notification from our Administrators of an Extraordinary General Meeting to be held on the 30th April in La Marina. The reason for the meeting is twofold. The first meeting at 10:00hrs is to remove the existing Administrators and appoint a new Administrator.
 The second meeting later in the day at 16:30 hrs is for the new Administrators to introduce themselves and to outline the scheme for providing electric and water meters for everyone on site and also to introduce a new budget to cover community fees only. Owners will then only pay for the water and electric they, or their guests etc, use plus the community charge.
We the Presidents believe that this is what everyone wants and we may then get a higher proportion of owners contributing.
If you are in contact with any other owners please inform them just in case our present Administrators don`t!
 
If you are unable to attend but wish to vote please reply by e-mail indicating your wish and I will use this as a proxy at the meeting.
 
Hope you are all well
 

Thanks Billyboy for the information.

I will try to read into the very vauge statement,

There is going to be another ´.meeting.-, the outcome of which has already been decided.......dump med.......because they can not legally get the money in to clear sj´s debts

Get another Mug organisation in who will promise everything to get the business.

put in ´PRIVATE METERS´ not the ones that you and I have already paid for.

Resell builders supply....illegal!

Who can vote......well only those paid up or can we all?

I want to see a document that will fully describe and agreed by ALL res and non res what exactly is COMMUNAL and what the running costs of those assets are,

I understand that the meters may be charged for on a monthly basis and that the rate recharged for the power WILL be HIGH

perhaps  and I hope my interpretation is wrong

ever opomistic but boring

I have also been told that there is no chance of coh for at least three years

contradict me please, proof -

Thanks Billyboy for the information.

I will try to read into the very vauge statement,

There is going to be another ´.meeting.-, the outcome of which has already been decided.......dump med.......because they can not legally get the money in to clear sj´s debts

Get another Mug organisation in who will promise everything to get the business.

put in ´PRIVATE METERS´ not the ones that you and I have already paid for.

Resell builders supply....illegal!

Who can vote......well only those paid up or can we all?

I want to see a document that will fully describe and agreed by ALL res and non res what exactly is COMMUNAL and what the running costs of those assets are,

I understand that the meters may be charged for on a monthly basis and that the rate recharged for the power WILL be HIGH

perhaps  and I hope my interpretation is wrong

ever opomistic but boring

I have also been told that there is no chance of coh for at least three years

contradict me please, proof -

Just put the news on. Stop breathing our air is dangerous- but

compared with victorian air it is so clean

hello

 I have been in El Pinet for about a week and there has been no work done since I was here last summer. Power very low. Water cut once but then I saw it being pumped out of the bunker because the tanks were overflowing. I have spoken to a few of the people that live here and to others that own properties here, My overall impression is that all, including myself are sick of the situation here. Some are just wanting to sell up, but even after dropping their prices to below what they paid six or seven years ago still  can not sell unless it is a cash buyer as solicitors tell them not to buy without coh, others are just going to lock up and leave. I have been told by several residents that it will be at least two years before these are granted.

Some explained about many so called secret committee  meetings and that they learned more at the bar lavista than they are told on site

The last agm meeting apparently lasted five and a half hours and no proposals from the floor were entertained. The timing of this agm was described as convenient as most had gone home. 

One woman by the roundabout  had her bag stolen by what were  described as morrocan Gents.  

Some retail units are to be combined and used as restaurant.

I overheard two men ( one English , one Spanish) in a conversation where it appeared that the vote at the forthcoming meeting was already decided and they were looking forward to peoples reaction when they were disconnected.

All the people that I have spoken to in the last week have little faith in anything to do with El Pinet.

I will  return in the summer but I really dont expect anything to have improved..

Seen a post and something in the papers about a politician making promises about making house buying in Spain safer. 

Can he prevent situations like ours where politicians were part of the problem

Only the second nice day today.  UK in the morn 

Can anyone tell me if they are aware of what is causing the current probles with water. My aunt is in my house in M8 and she says that she has had no water on and off for the past few days. She has been told it is only happening in M8. Is someone controlling the supply to M8? Is the problem across the whole site? Can anyone help me get some answers?

If someone is doing this of their own accord as some sort of gesture against those who they think are not paying...or for any other reason, could they please note that I am fully paid up....I always have been fully paid (despite my better judgement). There should be no reason for me not to have water.

Please help!!

Hi psbhoy,

Hi psbhoy,

The problem with the water is across the site not just your property.

So I have been told the water shortage is due to the amount of people that were at the site during the Easter week. It should be back to normal now.

 
You should receive notification from our Administrators of an Extraordinary General Meeting to be held on the 30th April in La Marina. The reason for the meeting is twofold. The first meeting at 10:00hrs is to remove the existing Administrators and appoint a new Administrator.
 The second meeting later in the day at 16:30 hrs is for the new Administrators to introduce themselves and to outline the scheme for providing electric and water meters for everyone on site and also to introduce a new budget to cover community fees only. Owners will then only pay for the water and electric they, or their guests etc, use plus the community charge.
We the Presidents believe that this is what everyone wants and we may then get a higher proportion of owners contributing.

''If you are in contact with any other owners please inform them just in case our present Administrators don`t!''

Done as requested!
 

This message was last edited by victor meldrew on 29/04/2011.

Hi
 
If you haven't received notification from the administrators regarding the EGM (details below) which I seriously doubt, could you please if you have not already done so email me with your proxy vote for or against, before Saturday morning.  We need at least 25% of owners votes to get this through.  I appreciate that this may be the first you have heard of this but the administrators were supposed to have sent out letters to all and we don't think they have sent out any (no surprise there!).
 
Just a simple email stating for or against will do.
 
 

Since when as 25% been a majority! What a surprise we dont get info.....decision done before any 'VOTE'

Who exactly is allowed to vote?

....sorry, no COH, no community, no problem...nobody should be on site. Earlier on this site a lawyer stated re selling builders supply is illegal, So buying it could also be the same

As for meters. Lets just get the ones we have paid for

  Sign nothing.

It would be wrong of me to expect anyone to raise this point about the electric supply on my behalf but I would appreciate it.

I have mentioned this to someone if possible to raise at the meeting, but would like others to be aware!

As I would hate to see people getting killed/injured or property demaged through faulty cable. The cable running around the site has been out in all weathers. Looking at the size of cable/flex to each property you wouldn't expect to run more than a kettle or 3kw electric fire!

Normally cabling on building sites are tested every 3 months in the UK and thats for 110v not 230v!

Please not this is a genuine concern and not scaring people for the sake of it.

Excellent point 9 palms. Where is the 'elf 'n' safety brigade when you need them.'

I don't suppose it is the same in Spain as the UK? But, when you touch an electrical installation you are responsible for that installation, everything. So, when changes are made to the cabling/installation for any reason and there is a serious problem. Even if it was already there, that person(s) is held liable!

I'm not saying no to the meters in principle but I hope it is done properly and everything is checked out legally with Iberdrola!!

I repeat this is a genuine concern and not scaring people for the sake of it.

Any news?

Hi,

I was over in el pinet M8 for 10 days and the water was a problem again - but this time it appeared to be a compression problem which also affects other areas by all accounts.

On the saturday Paco's son came and fixed a broken plastic pipe but he also had to use a generator to increase the compression. This lasted for 24 hours then we had the same problem on the sunday. Throughout our stay the water would pulse then go off and ocassionally blow out into the road. I am not an engineer but it does seem quite clearly a compression valve problem that has probably worn through use/age.  This would account for some garden watering systems blew apart.

One of the problems with the old adminstrators was that they were not paying bills so the plumber is owed a couple of months of work - no surprise that he is reluctant to help anymore!

Last week a huge volume of water disappeared overnight from the feeder tanks in the apartments- there actually were not that many people on site even though it was the hols, so the water was switched off to try to locate the leak. Last week the water was switched off at night and seemed to be ok during the day.

Its a never ending story - shame I never kept a diary.

Allegedly the administrators never respond to emails, letters or pay any bills so they have to go - there is no excuse for their disgraceful and unprofessional behaviour.

I for one am happy to have meters installed - yes we paid for them but the chances of San Jose coughing up are remote.

The meters are to be supplied by a reputable company for which we will pay a pepper-corn rent - a euro or two  on any bills.

I find that much more preferable than forking out 100 euros a month for a holiday home I use approx 10 weeks a year.

regards,

Leo