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Tony looks like you have cloned your solicitor as he does not know what he talking about either:-
RAC route map
From: Jumilla
To: Alicante
Total Distance: 76.27 mile(s), about: 1 hour(s) 45 minute(s)
From: Jumilla
To: Corvera (Covera)
Total Distance: 55.06 mile(s), about: 1 hour(s) 23 minute(s)
and the new motorway is nearer murcia city than corvera itself. there is already the A30 motorway which i use regularly. there is no way a new motorway cut to alicante will make a blind bit of difference as there is already a superb motorway
when corvera open probably summer 2010 it has already sugned deals with ryanair, easyjet, monarch and will be a huge international hub
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Actually it takes 45 to 50 minutes to get to Alicante airport from Jumilla, dependant on traffic, knowing the best route and taking an average speed of 100km an hour. I do it quite regularly. So your all wrong.
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Linda Needham
La Alberquilla
Jumilla, Murcia
R4 308 For Rental
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Hi All,
Yes LInda is quite correct about the current travel time. However, I am refreing to a new motorway that is being built that will go from Alicante and up passed Jumilla. This will decrease the travel time to the coast and Alicante airport and depending upon your mode of transport and driving style. Currently it takes me 60 minutes from SJ airport and the route to Alicante will be about 40% shorter and avoid the road changing in Murcia City, so it should be significantly quicker. I think that this is fairly obvious.
As for the value/price of propertie inland and particularly Jumilla:
I was aware of the other development being touted around back in 2006. I have felt then and now that not only does SADM have better facilities ( planned) but is also better value. I have looked on the web site at the cost of property there and it is dearer than SADM, has less facilites and I beleive has still to get licences. So lets just think on that........A development that SADM can be compared with, unlike the ones on the coast is dearer than SADM and not as advanced. So I would strongly advice people to stick with their contracts and the right to purchase.
SO I MOST DEFINATELY WANT MY HOUSE
Tony R 17 18
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Not SADM but once again shows SJ acting illegally
This is a reply from someone who gives good advice and has helped many members on this forum.
I asked him about the situation El Pinet residents have found themselves in with SJ demanding they pay for builder suplly Water and electric dating back to 2005 . SJ have told them that the company has no money to pay the bills and if residents do not pay the supply will be cut off.
Seems to me that for once Tony has got something right SJ have no money to pay for anything including building SADM.
here is the reply
First of all no the fact that the developer is in administration does not change the situation at all as it remains ilegal to charge and again it is the builder and administor trying it on, remeber their business is to work for the builde, not the client
Also the key point here is that San Jose are still trading and therefore still bound by Spanish Law and it is ilegal alwo to cut off your builders supply, you can call the Police and have the site manager or senior officers arrested
It remains ilegal to charge for builders supply and San Jose will have already paid for services back to 2005
They have to, prior to levying any charge, that this is fair and reasonable and in your case there will be central meters and accounts that will have recorded the total consumption over that period
If you have a community formed your community administrator should help you, that´s why you pay his fees but you really need good local legal support not just over this but also to get the Certificate of Habitation
A good lawyer is PSI in Playa Flamenca who is having a free advuce day this Saturday at theor offices so, if there is somebody in Spain, it would be worth somebody dropping in but I know that you can also call them and they are dealing with lots of San Jose clients
I also operate the www.thesnaggingforum.com so you should register there
San Jose still have lots of property unsold so they wan t to avoid bad publicity so also think about contacting the local papers but speak to the lawyers first
Please kepp me updated on developments
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Linda, I agree with your comments regarding speeds and times, together with shortest routes, and don't think that this could be reduced by much, motorway or no motorway, unless you wish to average 150 Km/hr no police and clear roads.
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Hi All,
We posted the SARC report in July and we said then that there was no money there to pay back purchasers and there were some who said otherwise.
The only way forward is for the refinancing of SADM, which is being negotiated: as my solicitor was informed by the administrators. When and if SADM does get refinanced and the build goes ahead that is when those who still decide to have their deposit back will be able to negotiate repayment from the income generated by those purchasers completing on their properties.
It is surely in the best interest of all purchasers, except perhaps some with BGs, that SADM goes ahead and we should all be pushing for the earliest conclusion of the negotiations. I know that it is extremely frustrating and to some very unpalatable but to get the best out come for all we need SADM to go ahead. This is for the benifit of us the purchasers, not the company, although it may help the company but the main thing is that it will help us.
I wish you all the best and hope that we can get a positve outcome for all soon
I WANT MY HOUSE
Tony R17 18
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Tony if people with a BG decide to get their money back .It is the bank or financial institution who issued the BG that will pay them back the full amount plus costs plus 6% interest per year .Therefore it makes no difference to anyone with a BG if SADM is built or not.The only way this would make a difference to anyone with a BG is if the completion date for there property has not yet passed then they would not be able to claim on their BG until that date .However the state of SJ/HdT 's affairs show that the dates for completion will come and go before they are able to refinance . Indeed the chances are that they will not be able to refinance at all as they have been trying since before May and went into adninstration because they were unable to get finance . When the dates for completion pass and they most certainly will people with BGs will then be able to claim back on them .I would think that most people are well past completion dates by now anyway.
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H JA, Just a thought. Have you or anyone an idea of how many people have BGs?
Surely it will have been taken into consideration that, say there were 1500 purchaser and that just 50% had BGs. The administration will have taken into account that after the fright, hassle, dissapointment the purchasers have had, it is a possibility that those with a chance of cash back from BG, will surely go down that route, rather than risk more.
Say of the 50%, just half decide they want their cash, that means 375 withdraw.
Laws of averages and stats., would leave one to believe that several people would not be able to honour, or would not want to, their agreement to purchase. Say just 15%, being 102.
That is a total of 477 new purchasers to be found, when there is a glut of premises for sale, both coastal and inland.
Some super sales persons and promises needed there.
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Once again not SADM but may be of interest .This post is made with the intention of sharing information not making "mischief "
I am sure that Tony approves of the source as he has used the same source to post information himself.I think the key phrase in the article is "cash - strapped builder " one really must ask if this company will ever complete anything .I am sure the residents of El Pinet are delighted they have their houses all be it on a half finished building site with the threat of having no water or electricity hanging over them being held to ransom for random amounts of money based on no system of fairness .Another fine example of what sort of customer /aftersales care we can all expect from the good old SJ group. JA
Homeowners told to pay up or be cut off
By Dave Jones
RESIDENTS living at troubled El Pinet urbanisation in La Marina de Elche are up in arms after they were asked to pay 120 euros per month for builder’s supply of electricity and water.
The demand has come from administrators running Orihuela-based construction company San José Inversiones which went into voluntary suspension of payments in May.
Building work at the urbanisation was halted in 2004 following a complaint that homes were being built inside the protection perimeter of Santa Pola natural park.
Judges ruled in favour of the builders in April this year and Elche town hall gave the green light for construction to go ahead at the site in August.
However the cash-strapped builder has so far not been able to finance the completion of homes and infrastructure at the site.
Residents have now complained that they are being asked to cough up a vastly inflated price for their electricity and water supply – or face being cut off.
A residents’ spokesman told CBNews that administrators explained there was no money to pay the utility bills.
He said: “Most of the people here are not against paying what we owe but if everyone pays 120 euros a month this comes to 35,000 euros.
“Whose leg are they trying to pull?
“It is obscene to ask us to pay this much and they can’t expect us to do so.
“We want to pay for what we use and want them to put meters in for each household.”
However in a meeting with residents last week administrators indicated that the 120-euro fee might not be fair for some residents and that they were prepared to negotiate.
The residents’ spokesman said: “We informed them that we would pay only 60 euros per month from September onwards, establishing some differences depending on the type of house.
“We also asked San José to provide the bills corresponding to September, October and November 2007 since we understand that the expenditure during those months is reduced in a considerable way and it is necessary for us to know it.”
Residents have also stated that it in their opinion it is not legal to charge them for builder’s supply.
However a spokesman for Elche town hall said that as the houses do not have habitation certificates the properties should not be inhabited.
“The legality of this situation depends on the contract that the purchasers have with the builders,” she added.
“If it is in their contract that they pay for the electricity and water then they can charge them for it.”
A total of 293 houses on unfinished El Pinet urbanisation are occupied – many by British and Irish expats.
djones@cbnews.es
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Hi All,
As JA posted earlier there is no money. That means the 10% of purchasers who have BGs would be the only ones who would be OK if SADM did not go ahead.
The rest of us need it to proceed to generate sales and income, this would give those who wanted it, their property and funds to payback those who want there money. Very simple not rocket science, so shall we all start trying to work together and get this mess sorted out?
As for the post by JA from the CBN, I have lifted this post from the EOS general page. Not really anything to do with SADM but I am sure that JA and FIN are just trying to push postingsa down the thread.
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Far (and all others on El Pinet)
On another forum we read there is an entry summarising a meeting which was held on the 24th between some residents and SJ regarding the request for 120 euro payments. It appears that the residents and SJ have reached agreement on a figure of 60 euros per month from September to December. They have also mentioned a target date of December to finish the roads and lighting. This would apparently allow us to get our habitation certificates.
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Geoff
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i reckon san jose have agreed to pay tony on a clock basis. the more posts he makes the more they pay him. he gets double if he writes nonsense.
hence he is on double for 399 posts.
shame san jose told him they would take off price of house, and he will never get paid.
but hey we all know he still is an agent for san jose, he is probably the buffon that placed an ad on www.aplaceinsun.com, and in sept magazine "great places abroad for under £100K".
how many reservations have you made tony?
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Tony you really are not good at keeping up to date SJ and Admin are now denying that they said they would reduce amounts and now want immediate payment of E120 starting August .They have also stated they do not have the money to finish roads and lighting to allow people to get HCs and therefore can not give a date for work to be started or finished . Thought you being a SARC leader would be keeping up with developments .
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Hi All,
I think it is time to welcome back the libel crew bringing insults to a forum near you but unfortunately nothing helpfull.
It is sad that all you can do to try to justify your self is throw liabelous comments.
As we all know there is no money in the pot, despite the claims by others that it was and therefore the only way forward is for SADM to be refinanced and I am sure that all purchasers can see that now. The refinancing is being negotiated and all being well it will enable SADM to go ahead and for us to all have a positive outcome. I feel, however, that almred does not really have purchasers best interests at heart and just sadly wishes to make banal remarks.
IWANT MY HOUSE
Tony R17 18
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At least it is only banal as opposed to the banal - the b remarks you make .Tony all joking aside now I am seriously concerned about the state of your mental health .Perhaps you should take another break.
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Tony since i discovered what San jose were up in 2004 I have been trying to pass on my knowledge, they were crooks then and they crooks now.
When you started this bizarre crusade you were talking garbage about 1500 purchases x % of deposits means millions./zillions of deposits in the accounts and how you had been told by "your solicitor (almu)" that san jose had money in seperate account and everything was fine.
Now you say "As we all know there is no money in the pot".
which is what i have been saying for months, years, they used the clients money illegal ti fund there lifestyle and callously did not achieve planning approval. or pay licences for any site. hence the fact no financial institiation will touch them with a barge pole.
your work for san jose for the last 7 mths has ensured yet more time wasted.
even when the directors are being sued by their own shareholders for fraud you still perpetuate the myth that refinancing is possible.
what any self respecting consumer body should have down is create a collective lawsuit and get in quick, this is why you have only 37 members!
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Hi Alamred,
An interesting monica for a female poster....any way as you have been told that inforamtion re the numbers is wrong and so so so out of date, we just keep on growing ( i did give you a hint about number and any one can trail down the postings and find it)
If you read the SARC July report we said that there was no money there, but poor Ana said that the deposit money was there.
So lets get this project refinanced and some get their homes and some their money.
Have a nice evening
I WANT MY HOUSE
Tony R17 18
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alamred, that is a most ridiculous accusation to make about a contributor working for SJ.
SJ have worked miracles to get away with what they have to date and must only employ people of intellect to work for them.  This message was last edited by FriendinNeed on 10/4/2008.
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Hi All,
I think it is time to welcome back the libel crew bringing insults to a forum near you but unfortunately nothing helpfull.
It is sad that all you can do to try to justify your self is throw liabelous comments.
As we all know there is no money in the pot, despite the claims by others that it was and therefore the only way forward is for SADM to be refinanced and I am sure that all purchasers can see that now. The refinancing is being negotiated and all being well it will enable SADM to go ahead and for us to all have a positive outcome. I feel, however, that almred does not really have purchasers best interests at heart and just sadly wishes to make banal remarks.
IWANT MY HOUSE
Tony R17 18
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