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06 Dec 2013 6:25 AM by georgeh Star rating in condado de alhama sp.... 1462 forum posts Send private message

Chaddy, its good to see dakey finally coming to his senses and agreeing with us that the dinosaur isnt up to the job.We told him this at the beginning of the season but he refused to believe us. Just shows our superior football knowledge mate.



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06 Dec 2013 7:05 AM by dakey Star rating in Manchester(Miggleton.... 2607 forum posts Send private message

Whoa, slow down George! It will just take him a little longer to get a grip of running the biggest club in the World mate. Our massive self generated income and fan base will ensure that he gets it right sooner rather than later. I mean it is not like the easy task of running a little club where you dont have to worry whether fans turn up or sponsers sign on and the manager just goes cap in hand to a rich sugar daddy for 50 million quid at the sniff of a bad result. Any idiot can manage, or even support, a club like that, but the manager and fans alike know that when that owner gets bored of the plaything and ups sticks then they are well and truly F.....D!!! Enjoy while you can (oh by the way boys, havnt you noticed that another well run self generated club is leaving you in their wake after having kept loyal to their manager. while we are sorting ourselves out. an alien concept to your sorry clubs, I know)

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06 Dec 2013 7:09 AM by georgeh Star rating in condado de alhama sp.... 1462 forum posts Send private message

funny thing is man u arent producing any players anymore. the same as the rest they jst buy when they can afford it



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06 Dec 2013 9:00 AM by dakey Star rating in Manchester(Miggleton.... 2607 forum posts Send private message

George,

We are very happy with the kids coming through our academy thank you and time will bear fruit on that. I notice your change of tac to try and distract me from a very valid point. for years you have tried to catch a club that is set up and run properly and just when we have an understandable trasitionary blip after the retirement of the greatest manager ever and you and the bitters are thinking your time in the wilderness is at an end, along comes another properly well run club who finally appear to have their shit together and piss on your little bonfires again. They can hold the fort for a short while until we get back on track (and I am talking about weeks or months, not years). Lifes a bitch mate isnt it, you both just dont seem able to reach the pinnacle and stay there.

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06 Dec 2013 9:04 AM by georgeh Star rating in condado de alhama sp.... 1462 forum posts Send private message

dakey i think 2nd is a bit closer to the pinacle than 9th-lol



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06 Dec 2013 9:44 AM by Jay05 Star rating in We are in Los Naranj.... 1464 forum posts Send private message

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We produce not only international class players for our own team but premiership class players for other teams so I think you can retract that one George in the interest of truth and honesty!!

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06 Dec 2013 9:46 AM by georgeh Star rating in condado de alhama sp.... 1462 forum posts Send private message

pardon jay por le france bien sur



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06 Dec 2013 10:18 AM by Jay05 Star rating in We are in Los Naranj.... 1464 forum posts Send private message

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George

 

отвяжись

 

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06 Dec 2013 10:24 AM by georgeh Star rating in condado de alhama sp.... 1462 forum posts Send private message

You see thats the difference between cultural chelsea fans  and ignorant l'arse fans.. We can make our point in a foreign language without using google translate and all you can do is hurl obscenities which hopefully will result in a red card



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06 Dec 2013 10:31 AM by dakey Star rating in Manchester(Miggleton.... 2607 forum posts Send private message

Jay,

I understand Georges attempt at humour highlighting  your clubs French leaning, but what language is your retort in, it wouldnt be ladyboy slang would it?

George, as Sir Edmund Hillary would testify, if you dont plant your flag at the pinnacle then you may as well stay at base camp and party. 2nd place my friend is nowhere and dont forget you have sacked managers who have won it and won the CL so where would that leave the special one if you only achieve runners up or third? You cant win any of the cups as they are ours mate.

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06 Dec 2013 11:02 AM by georgeh Star rating in condado de alhama sp.... 1462 forum posts Send private message

cups dakey. im guesssing you are praying we dont knock you out of them as we did last year. and at the moment you would give your little todger to be in 4th place let alone 2nd-lol



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06 Dec 2013 11:17 AM by dakey Star rating in Manchester(Miggleton.... 2607 forum posts Send private message

We will end in the top 4 mate and add another cup to the community shield already in the cabinet. The Moyesiah will then have won things in his first year unlike the great man who took nearly four years and we all know where that little fairytale went on to.

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06 Dec 2013 11:44 AM by Jay05 Star rating in We are in Los Naranj.... 1464 forum posts Send private message

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Dakey

I Only know Russian but I have been meaning to learn Thai for a loooooooooonnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggggg time!

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06 Dec 2013 11:46 AM by dakey Star rating in Manchester(Miggleton.... 2607 forum posts Send private message

There is no justice in the world, I have got myself in big debt this Xmas buying all the kids presents and the fat f;:/er with the beard will get all the credit.......... mind you, I suppose its my fault for marrying her!!

Dakey




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07 Dec 2013 9:50 AM by chaddyowl Star rating in Manchester. 1264 forum posts Send private message

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Come on you TOONNNnnnnnnnnnn!!

Man Ure struggling up front with Fatman and Robin out so hernandez and Wellbeck (Tee Hee) up front with Giggs (pension time) in midfield with Clever arse.. Some line up that is..... LMFAOlaugh

City on the South Coast with virtually full strength squad!! Just coming together at the right time me thinks..wink




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07 Dec 2013 10:34 AM by Jay05 Star rating in We are in Los Naranj.... 1464 forum posts Send private message

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On 17 August 2012, Robin Van Persie transferred to Manchester Utd. The fee was £22.5 million, plus £1.5 million if Man U won the Premier League or Champions League title within the duration of the initial contract – which was for four years.

So the question was raised: why spend £24m plus a salary of £200,000 a week for four years on a player that will have little or no value when his contract ends, and who is highly unlikely to want to give up such a salary at any time during the contract?

Multiply the weekly salary by 52 and you get £10.4m a year. Multiply by four and you get £41.6m. Add in £24m transfer fee ad you get £65,600,000 spent on that player written off over four years.

Transfer fees like this are added to salaries and accounted for over the length of the contract – which is how we get £16.25m a year. That is what it is costing the club.

Worse, if injury and age take their toll, then although the money is acocunted for over four years it could be effectively written off over two years.

Of course emotionally Manchester United fans will say that yes it was a good deal in that he won them the league last year and I wouldn’t blame them for that. When you see your side win the league, you don’t start counting the cost.

But this year… he has not played since scoring the winner against Arsenal, and at present there is no sign of him playing nor a date on which he will be expected to return.

Now that is not utterly unexpected – for if we look at the number of games he played for Arsenal each season we see a sorry tale…

RVP League games for Arsenal

2004–05

26

2005–06

24

2006–07

22

2007–08

15

2008–09

28

2009–10

16

2010–11

25

2011–12

38

So he played one complete season – his last with us, but otherwise varied between 15 and 28 games out of 38 league games. Between two fifths and three quarters of the games he could have played in.

Now as we might remember he actually did manage 38 games for Man U in his first season there. But this year, the old injury curse is back.

What this tells us is that last season he played 38 games and cost Man U £16,400,000, which equates to £431,579 per game. Was it a good deal? Quite probably since United won the league.

But that payment is going on game by game, even when Van Persie is not playing. And it will continue not just this season, but for the next two, by which time, even if he does again throw off the injury jinx that haunted him at Arsenal will take him to a stage in his career where his powers will be declining.

There are a few conclusions that we can draw from this.

First, one of the most obvious problems with Man U this season is that RVP is not there. They need him, and he helped them win the title last season.

Second, in buying him and putting him on that contract a year ago, Six Alex Ferguson, must have known that

a) he (Sir A) was not going to be around during the latter stages of the RVP contract to listen to the argument about how an injury prone 34 year old was getting £200,000 a week.

b) if he could just keep RVP fit for one season it would be worth it if it won the league, and there was a chance of him staying fit for one year. After that RVPs injuries would be a problem but then he would be getting older so wouldn’t play much anyway

c) having bought RVP and put him on such a salary there would be little cash around for Man U to go on further spending sprees. Yes they could keep buying, but not the three or four players a year that they need in order to find the one or two who can slot into the team and keep up the challenge for the title

d) the fans had become so used to dominance of the league that they would quickly revolt if the service was not provided – but he (Sir Alex) would not be there to worry about it. His legacy would be complete, and the press, who generally only deal with one issue at a time, would fawn to him as they had done for years, and his poor successor would be hung out to dry.

In short, that transfer was done to allow Sir Alex Ferguson to go out on a high – but without any thought about the future of the club, and its next manager, and how it would have difficulty in making a lot of major purchases in coming years.

Of course Man U are not useless without RVP, but they are not league winners. RVP would sooner be playing – but still he has his income, and I am sure he will be putting some of it to one side each week for his future.

Every Arsenal fan knows what the frustration of RVP injuries feels like. We know what it is like for him to play for the Netherlands when carrying an injury and then be out for months on end.

All we can say to Man U fans is, well, yes, we suffered too. But then we never put him on £10,400,000 a year.

Maybe Moyes should have thought twice before accepting the job.





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07 Dec 2013 11:49 AM by shampers Star rating in Warrington & Jardin .... 1057 forum posts Send private message

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But Moyes will get sacked at the end of the season, get a lovely pay off, have a rest for 6 months then get a job before Xmas next year .......... and the fools are ?



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07 Dec 2013 1:57 PM by dakey Star rating in Manchester(Miggleton.... 2607 forum posts Send private message

Jay,

He was your best paid player for most of the 8 years and you won sweet FA. He has been with us 1 year and has a PL and a Community Shield winners medals. This year has yet to pan out, a lot to play for and nothing won in December. We are happy with the deal as we earn buckets full of money and the debt is nearly gone. We will continue to bid for the best players and if he is worth nothing in a few years time so what, we will just move on to the next superstar.

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07 Dec 2013 3:26 PM by Jay05 Star rating in We are in Los Naranj.... 1464 forum posts Send private message

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Dakey

I think you better move a bit quicker!!!

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07 Dec 2013 3:47 PM by shampers Star rating in Warrington & Jardin .... 1057 forum posts Send private message

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Why would any superstars goto a midtable club ?



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