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09 May 2016 9:56 AM by Mickyfinn Star rating in Spain and France. 1833 posts Send private message

The core founding principles of the European Union 

  • an internal market where competition is free and undistorted;
  • an area of freedom, security and justice without internal boarders.
  • sustainable development, based on balanced economic growth and price stability, a highly competitive social market economy, aiming at full employment and social progress, and a high level of protection and improvement of the quality of the environment;
  • the promotion of scientific and technological advance;
  • the combating of social exclusion and discrimination, and the promotion of social justice and protection, equality between women and men, solidarity between generations and protection of the rights of the child;
  • the promotion of economic, social and territorial cohesion, and solidarity among Member States.
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  • In relation to foreign policy the following:
  • peace;
  • security;
  • sustainable development of the Earth;
  • solidarity and mutual respect among peoples;
  • free and fair trade;
  • eradication of poverty;
  • protection of human rights (in particular the rights of the child);
  • development of international law (respect for the principles of the United Nations Charter).

 


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09 May 2016 10:00 AM by ads Star rating. 4134 posts Send private message

Justice based on the rule of law?





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09 May 2016 11:46 AM by Hephaestus Star rating in The Peak District Na.... 1230 posts Send private message

I just wondered how many of you guys actually have a vote in the forthcoming referendum.



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10 May 2016 4:10 PM by baz1946 Star rating. 2327 posts Send private message

The British market sitting virtually empty after £4million revamp thanks to EU rules that ban the stalls from having TILLS 

  • Market has undergone huge revamp thanks partly to European cash
  • Rules mean stalls have to sell at central pay point rather than have own tills
  • Traders say restrictions explain why only three out of 46 spaces are taken 




 





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10 May 2016 5:40 PM by johnzx Star rating in Spain. 5242 posts Send private message

British market sitting virtually empty ....

see:-      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3582644/Marketplace-virtually-EU-rules-banning-tills.html

 


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10 May 2016 5:58 PM by perrypower1 Star rating in Derbyshire/Fuerteven.... 647 posts Send private message

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Just heard that the Vote Leave is being done for illegal use of the NHS logo!!!





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10 May 2016 6:00 PM by Hephaestus Star rating in The Peak District Na.... 1230 posts Send private message

That's sooooo vile, they should be shot. laugh



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10 May 2016 6:58 PM by Mickyfinn Star rating in Spain and France. 1833 posts Send private message

I am guessing all of you understand that newspapers such as The Daily Mail and The Sun trawl news wholesale outlets for stories, usually unverified that suit their particular view of the world. Or their particular purpose.

Myths and legend again. Personally I read stuff that challenges my assumptions, not ones that verify them. Each to their own I guess. 

 


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10 May 2016 9:25 PM by baz1946 Star rating. 2327 posts Send private message

British market sitting virtually empty ....

see:-      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3582644/Marketplace-virtually-EU-rules-banning-tills.html

Thank you for that, I haven't read that newspaper or piece, still haven't, I had the article sent over to me and didn't know if it was true or not.





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10 May 2016 9:58 PM by baz1946 Star rating. 2327 posts Send private message

I am guessing all of you understand that newspapers such as The Daily Mail and The Sun trawl news wholesale outlets for stories, usually unverified that suit their particular view of the world. Or their particular purpose.

*** Myths and legend again.*** Personally I read stuff that challenges my assumptions, not ones that verify them. Each to their own I guess.

I didn't know the newspapers did this, are you saying that the article about the market is not true?

Am I now to assume that all the articles about  NOT TO LEAVE  the EU are also in the same vein (Myths and Legends) and are to be deemed as untruths?

 





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11 May 2016 9:36 AM by scollins Star rating in London. 53 posts Send private message

Actually, the Daily Mail article challenged my assumption that the strap line in news articles has any relevance to the substance of the article. On reading the article, it's nothing to do with Brussels. Funding was provided by the EU tor refurbishing the market for wholesale commercial use not retail use. This would have been a condition of the funding that Nottingham City Council would have been aware of . Unfortunately, this is what passes for journalism these days.



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11 May 2016 10:35 AM by ads Star rating. 4134 posts Send private message

Maybe the only way to prevent misinformation ( of any significance) is to have an overseeing independent regulatory body with powers to ensure that the original source is made to correct their "errors"  in a timely fashion and be monitored such that these so called "reporters" are named and shamed with financial penalties to act as adequate disincentives. Jo public are getting sick and tired of being subjected to misinformation relating to serious subject matter,  and it discredits the newspaper industry and those journalists with serious and honourable intent.

 


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11 May 2016 12:49 PM by Hephaestus Star rating in The Peak District Na.... 1230 posts Send private message

At the end of the day some folk will believe what/who they want to believe, this is as it has always been and always will be, it's up to the individual to sort out the wheat from the chaff. I'm not a great believer in over regulation as I have witnessed it being far more draconian than what it is supposed to be regulating, I much prefer my right to ignore who and whatever I wish.



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11 May 2016 1:52 PM by ads Star rating. 4134 posts Send private message

Good regulation is intended to regulate against conscious and intentional malpractice and abuse, which in the case of the press and with regard to serious subject matter, should surely take issue with misinformation  created with the sole purpose of sensational headlines to sell print above the requirement for fully researched factual information.





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11 May 2016 2:21 PM by BigAl2015 Star rating. 194 posts Send private message

Very difficult to regulate the press regarding 'misinformation' when every 5 minutes a politician is prepared to go in front of a camera and 'spout misinformation' at will, at the moment.





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11 May 2016 3:13 PM by ads Star rating. 4134 posts Send private message

All the more reason to make politicians accountable in this whole sorry saga. It will be interesting to see what comes from the Chilcot inquiry, no?

In terms of the press, it's becoming increasingly obvious of the need for a truly independent source of good journalistic well researched factual information that has no political allegiances. Possible or not in this day and age?





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11 May 2016 10:24 PM by hughjardon Star rating in Jaywick Sands. 418 posts Send private message

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UK back in recession another reason to get out of this stupid situation the EU is sucking the life blood our of the U.K. industries and the doom Lord of all time Brown sticks his stupid Scotish nose in i like most Brits hate that fool he and his boyfriend Blair 

The farmers are for leaving too ,I am sure we will leave and my bags are packed,the EU is rotten to the core rol on D day

Love Hugh xxx



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11 May 2016 10:32 PM by ads Star rating. 4134 posts Send private message

If it's up to individuals to "sort out the wheat from the chaff" then it's important to bear in mind how those with malintent or hidden agendas purposefully hide behind complexities ( such as occurred in the financial crisis ) or purposefully try to confuse the general public by a campaign of misinformation.

Such tactical and intentional malpractice/abuse to deny   the general public of important facts needs to be outlawed (good regulation)  if we are ever to regain trust in our politicians and press.





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11 May 2016 10:36 PM by bobaol Star rating. 2253 posts Send private message

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Even for you that's a bit of a silly post. Did you pick up the toilet duck instead of the can of Coke by mistake? Unless you can explain how the EU is causing UK to go into recession, of course. Like reduced revenues from North Sea oil is a EU conspiracy, I assume. The decline in the things UK makes compared to its service industry is also a EU plot then?

Rather than post silly, innuendo ridden soundbites, how about actually contributing something to what was quite an interesting thread? Even tteedd, though I do find him wrong, at least tries to justify his rants comments.

 

 





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11 May 2016 10:55 PM by Team GB Star rating. 1245 posts Send private message

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the EU is sucking the life blood our of the U.K. industries 

What might they be then? What we have got of any value is foreign owned



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