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Take a good look at "Nigels" expenses for his Brexit campaign....they include 15000 pounds for "Bodyguards" and all food and drink.....5 campaign "events" cost nearly 60000 and he receives 2.5 million a year for his Europe For Freedom
And Direct Democracy Group-...--paid for apparentlyby EU taxpayers........makes you wonder what sort of front man he would make.......These are facts.......not fiction.
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Boris and Donald sounds like a catoon and if it hapens it will be a farce never
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lovely to hear different points of view - however let us get it right Nigel's bodyguard spending was during the genreal election and for 5 big events only - UKIP don;t have any funding unlike other parties.
During this campaign the Remain had 9 mil given to them plus access to another 7mil with grants of up to £600,000 for spending on administrative costs etc.
The Leave campain did not have 9mil but did have 7mil and also access to £600.000 as above.
With both parties the 7mil was raised not with public money but raised themselves.
The Remain group had far better access to money than the Leave group which was in all the English newspapers at the time of campaigning.Both sides told lies and it is pointless saying that the Leave party said this and that when we can all come back with what the Remain party especially in the name of George Osbourne who was going around frightening pensioners ,came up with.
It is over, let's get on with it and hopefully create a new and better Great Britain.
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The problem was that Joe public was treated like a mushroom by both sides we were kept in the dark and fed a load of shit.
sorry about the language
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I am most disappointed with Mickyfinn its people like him who made Joe Bloggs vote leave he's scuttled off with his mate Perrypower never to be heard of again Selfishness put there own well being before the masses good riddance I say
And comparing BREXIT with WW2 is blasphemous millions lost there lives and families lost everything at the hands of the Nazis this is just a bump in the road
Love Hugh xx
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Why close the thread now? The really interesting bit is only just begining. Come on!!! The footsie 100 has fallen 5.7% in two days. The FTSE 250 has fallen by 14.2%. The pound plummeted to 1.20 to the euro and more against the dollar. It is a distinct possibility that it could reach parity with the euro by Christmas. PARITY. Trading in several banks was suspended when shares crashed. The country is in political turmoil. Maybe not so much project fear?
While at the same time, IDS denies that they promised money to the NHS (indeed, these are clever men, and they did not actually promise it........), Hannon says that they never said immigration would DECLINE, they just wanted a little bit of control.......And Boris? Well, Boris is really saying he doesn't want to leave the EU and at least the very most, please sir, can we have Brixit Lite!!!!!!! You cant tell me it isn't INTERESTING...............
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Oh - and Standard and Poor have just stripped the UK of its triple A rating........
It's not dull!!!
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Bound to be more instability with both parties in disarray.
Cameron was elected on a mandate of having a referendum so there was always a chance the result would be out (if not why hold it). If he did not want the consequences he should have stood down before the last election.
He has left the whole establishment rudderless. With many of the EU leaders wanting a quick outcome now would be a good time to get good terms but Cameron has buggered it all up. He is one of those quitters he was on about.
I hope something is going on behind the scenes (for the good of the country). We need someone like Gove to appointed Minister for Europe to interface with the EU now, no matter when we decide to initiate article 50. If there is a good deal to be had by going now we should grab it.
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I wasn't particularly interested in politics before but the events since Thursday have been like a good book that you can't put down because you don't know what's going to happen next
I wonder if they will make it into a film?
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Joe public was treated like a mushroom
The facts were all there. You just had to go and look for them. With the WWW it is possible for anyone these days.
The BBC did quite a good job of investigating all the claims (albeit with a bit of PC BBC bias but it was a good starting point).
I'm pretty sure that I knew all I wanted and needed to know. But having said that there ought to be a standard way of organising referendums in future. I now feel they ought to be held at the same time as a general election. That way we would get a good turnout for the election and all the MP's would be committed to implementing the result. If they were really opposed to doing the will of the people they then need not stand.
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Cameron " we must bring the country together"......
'Key decisions'
While "all of the key decisions" would wait for his successor, he said there was work to be done in the meantime, and a new EU unit had been set up in Whitehall to "bring together expertise". He defended the decision to call the referendum, saying MPs had backed it by a margin of six to one, and said the Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish governments would be "fully involved" in the negotiations.
Although the Treasury has worked with the Bank of England and the Financial Conduct Authority to extensively plan for the immediate economic impact of a Brexit vote, Downing Street on Monday reiterated that the civil service had not done separate contingency work for the wider process of withdrawal – something the new team will now lead on. "Now we can start the work to put the UK in the best possible position for those negotiations on Britain's future relationship with the EU," she added.
Robyn Munro, senior researcher at the Institute for Government think tank, said it was not certain that much contingency planning had been undertaken ahead of the referendum as the civil service had been “expressly forbidden” from laying the groundwork for an outcome that was contrary to formal government policy. “I would have thought that planning for how we run things would have started today,” she told CSW on Friday afternoon. “It might take a long time.” Munro said the government's preferred model for managing the UK’s divorce from the EU, and the relationship it would then seek with the bloc following an exit, would likely have to wait until the leadership campaigns of the prospective new Conservative leaders. And she said ensuring the right staff were in place to run strong negotiations via the relevant government departments would be the main issue in the nearer term. “The civil service is the smallest it’s been since the Second World War, there are fewer resources and less expertise,” Munro added. “The civil service should be thinking ‘what resources do we have; what do we need more of; and where do those people come from?"
Many questions.....Govt mismanagement and failure to recognise risks from lack of civil service resource and lack of negotiating expertise?, failure to make contingency plans on the assumption that Brexit would never happen?, deny the Brexit campaigners relevant information in an attempt to scupper their ability to adequately prepare for Brexit?
Let's hope that this new unit can now address these issues, but is this too late in the day?
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Just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse.
Pants 1 Iceland 2
Beaten by 11 Penguins
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I thought that Iceland showed great spirit and clearly had a good game plan. Like with Brexit we were left standing open mouthed, without any strategy, as we are now.
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Didn't anyone tell the English players that the vote was to exit the EU no the euros
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Not that I am into shares or anything because I have no monies but our Stock market seems to be holding up very well over the last three months it has outperformed the Doe and the nicky
So Brexit wasnt WW3 and I read this morning the EU is going to back us COOL
Love Hugh xxx
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Hodgeson will be a bit sick if Iceland beat France.
Looks like May will beat Boris. So, if she wins, on paper we get a remainer. Not that she ever was really, she just assessed the main chance better than Boris.
Another femail PM at a critical time in the country's history?
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Why is no-one else being heard saying this?
Why don’t we be grown up, pragmatic, sensible, realistic and let’s cut between us a sensible tariff-free deal and thereafter recognise that the United Kingdom will be your friend; that we will trade with you, cooperate with you, we will be your best friends in the world. Do that, do it sensibly, and allow us to go off and pursue our global ambitions and future. (Nigel Farage, European Parliament)
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Not that I am into shares or anything because I have no monies
Got rid of my shares when I first bought a place in Spain. I guess I would have sold most before the vote but either way they would probably have done better than my investment in Spain.
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Didn't anyone tell the English players that the vote was to exit the EU no the euros
Perhaps they should start a petition for a replay?
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