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18 Dec 2016 10:20 AM by briando55 Star rating in Yorkshire. 1982 posts Send private message

The EU. Brought legislation forward to include food allergen information in 2014, which is incredibly useful I reckon. 

Also the EU insisted on labelling to show nutritional information (calories, fat, etc) earlier this year.   And insisted this should be at a font size that can be read and understood.  

Neither of these seem to be requiring urgent repeal do they?   

If anyone knows what Ms May really was driving at can they post it pls.  



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18 Dec 2016 12:43 PM by windtalker Star rating. 1949 posts Send private message

I hope the EU has informed the Spanish/French/Italian's what the information is for on the Wine label's ,l have read many a wine label's in the passed and not one off them mentioned Anti freezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. So much for the EU directive (merry xmass) to all l just couldn't resist that one.





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18 Dec 2016 2:37 PM by Destry Star rating in MYOB . 289 posts Send private message

All that I ever read on the back of a bottle is Alc % strength, l can do without being reminded that two bottles of low strength beer and a couple of medium size glasses of wine a day makes me an alcoholic. 🍷🍷🍻



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19 Dec 2016 7:27 AM by BigAl2015 Star rating. 194 posts Send private message

PP

This is just one of 57 areas where we are going to be at a disadvantage?, Please SPILL THE BEANS





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19 Dec 2016 8:53 AM by perrypower1 Star rating in Derbyshire/Fuerteven.... 647 posts Send private message

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Liam Fox would break the law if he did his job

After he took the role of international trade secretary, Fox boasted that he would have “about a dozen free trade deals outside the EU” ready for when Britain left. But it is illegal for Britain, as an EU member state, to negotiate bilateral trade deals. Fox later quietly backtracked on his promise. No one knows what he’s doing with his time at the moment.  

Another Brexit myth that has unraveled.  

What about a Free Trade deal with India.  Nope. India has said they want free movement of people and no Financial Services.  What about a Free Trade deal with Canada.  Nope we already have one via the EU. What about Australia. Nope we already have one via the EU. 

Bottom line, we will be on WTO tariffs or we won't be leaving the EU before the next general election.

 





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19 Dec 2016 8:55 AM by perrypower1 Star rating in Derbyshire/Fuerteven.... 647 posts Send private message

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Eczema sufferers should worry

If you want to sell pharmaceuticals in Europe, they have to have been cleared by European regulators. While we’re in the EU, that’s the case for the UK too. But what happens after we leave? Will a British regulator take up the slack? A fast, hard Brexit of the type being demanded by some Tory MPs would leave a window between leaving the EU and setting up our own regulators. During that period, drug firms wouldn’t be able to get their products authorised for the UK market, so, for a while, there would be no new eczema creams, asthma inhalers or any other new treatments available to British patients.





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19 Dec 2016 8:56 AM by perrypower1 Star rating in Derbyshire/Fuerteven.... 647 posts Send private message

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The UK steel industry could collapse overnight

There’s an EU agreement at the WTO preventing China from dumping cheap steel in Europe. Without it, plants such as Port Talbot would collapse as Chinese product flooded the market. When Britain leaves the EU, it will claim that it is still a signatory to this agreement and the Chinese will object. This dispute is likely to last for years. If Britain loses, it will likely lose its domestic steel industry.





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19 Dec 2016 8:58 AM by perrypower1 Star rating in Derbyshire/Fuerteven.... 647 posts Send private message

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Screwing up trade with Europe = screwing up trade with the world 

Leaving the single market will sever Britain’s relationship with its largest trading destination, but the problems don’t end there. Europe also has agreements with other major economies such as the US and Japan allowing it to transport goods without expensive and slow border checks. If Britain leaves the single market, we’ll lose these too. Oops.





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19 Dec 2016 9:00 AM by perrypower1 Star rating in Derbyshire/Fuerteven.... 647 posts Send private message

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The frontline of Britain’s battle with Europe could move from Brussels to Geneva 

Brexiters argue that if we don’t get a good deal from the EU, we can fall back on WTO rules. They couldn’t be more wrong. The EU is a member of the Geneva-based WTO too. If the UK tries to unilaterally separate its trade arrangements from the EU without getting its agreement first, Brussels can trigger a trade dispute. For Britain to secure a decent relationship with the WTO, it needs to make sure it is on good terms with the EU.





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19 Dec 2016 9:02 AM by perrypower1 Star rating in Derbyshire/Fuerteven.... 647 posts Send private message

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There you go Al start with those as your five a day.  How about I deliver them like the twelve days of Christmas.  

 





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19 Dec 2016 9:11 AM by tenerife Star rating. 130 posts Send private message

19 Dec 2016 9:18 AM by briando55 Star rating in Yorkshire. 1982 posts Send private message

Tenerife has what seems to be a genuine source for the comments and looks accurate on the face of it.

Perrypower looks to be using a less accurate source for information and it looks like some kind of blog or newspaper column. 

Thats how it looks from here anyway.  



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19 Dec 2016 9:47 AM by Destry Star rating in MYOB . 289 posts Send private message

For someone who purports to mix with the high and mighty he's suddenly all over this thread like a rash, I ask myself why? The Brexit process was alway going to be mega complicated and boring, if he is happy being the self appointed fountain of all knowledge, good luck to him, I've got a life to live. 

 



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19 Dec 2016 9:58 AM by BigAl2015 Star rating. 194 posts Send private message

There you go Al start with those as your five a day.  How about I deliver them like the twelve days of Christmas. 

Not exactly 57, in fact hardly a spoonful wink





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19 Dec 2016 10:02 AM by perrypower1 Star rating in Derbyshire/Fuerteven.... 647 posts Send private message

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Rural Payments Agency problems

  • Thank God for the EU.  UK farmers have been turning to food banks because the UK has been with holding payments from the EU.  Right now the EU is the best friend many farmers in the UK have.  CAP. Payments in the UK represent 90% of these people's income.  
  • March 2015: A multi-million pound government IT system to process payments is largely abandoned after performance problems
  • December 2015: Only 38% of claimants paid
  • October 2016: The RPA misses an extended EU deadline for making the basic payments.
  • November 2016: The RPA admits 1,200 commoners claims need reviewing
  • To date, the RPA has been fined £661m by Europe for late payments.
  • The RPA says it is aware of some challenges with a number of common areas and is engaging with those farmers affected.

 

 





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19 Dec 2016 10:04 AM by perrypower1 Star rating in Derbyshire/Fuerteven.... 647 posts Send private message

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Don't worry Al you will get all 57.  But unlike the daydream B*leavers on here I've got other things to do so can only spoon feed you a few each day. 





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19 Dec 2016 11:15 AM by ads Star rating. 4134 posts Send private message

This is beginning to appear as a repeat of the fear campaign that lost the remainers the vote so perhaps best to bear that in mind when formulating judgement and recognise the need to retain an open mind and research both sides of opinion and information via such programmes as Sunday Politics with Andrew Neil, BBC question time with David Dimbleby, Peston on Sunday, Andrew Marr, etc. , to retain a good well rounded and balanced appreciation, all thankfully responding to the varying "pieces " of information or opinions that will be filtering out as time progresses,  and tap into good trusted live independent cross questioning/ interviews and debate.  

Once bitten twice shy where tactical ploys to "confuse" by constant reinforcement of only a negative nature are concerned, as opposed to people's desire for a more balanced well rounded and independent means of being educated in that process.

Talking of which, thanks for the lawyers analysis Tenerife.

 

 





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19 Dec 2016 11:47 AM by Elsietanner Star rating in Alicante & New York. 164 posts Send private message

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Thats telling you, so do as your told.



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20 Dec 2016 7:59 AM by perrypower1 Star rating in Derbyshire/Fuerteven.... 647 posts Send private message

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The government is pretending bad news doesn’t exist

Directors of trade bodies – many of them facing economic and regulatory disaster – went in to brief David Davis, but before they got to his office they were taken to one side by civil servants and advised to go in saying Brexit was full of “opportunities”. Anyone who didn’t was asked to leave after five minutes.





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20 Dec 2016 8:06 AM by perrypower1 Star rating in Derbyshire/Fuerteven.... 647 posts Send private message

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Most people aren’t that fussed about freedom of movement

If there’s one thing everyone accepts the Brexit vote demonstrated, it’s that people want to end freedom of movement. Except this isn’t true. Poll after polltaken during and after the campaign found that between 20% and 40% of leave voters either support immigration or prioritise the economy over reducing it – or just want to remain in the single market.

Businesses and trade unions have called on Theresa May to guarantee immediately the right of EU citizens to stay in the UK after Brexit.  The British Chambers of Commerce (BCC), which represents companies with a combined workforce of five million people, and the TUC made the call in an open letter to the prime minister.

Failure to do so would damage the UK economy, the two bodies said.





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