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16 Feb 2017 3:28 PM by potblack Star rating in Alicante & Singapore. 233 posts Send private message

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Well I don’t know how long it took to research and write all that lot. But seeing as we are leaving what’s the point of discussing the EU historic state benefit structures, or any other EU historic subject.

When are some members going to get it, we voted out, it’s all over, it’s history, now irrelevant.

Out means Out, goodbye EU. Buy a good jigsaw puzzle.



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16 Feb 2017 4:17 PM by Jarvi Star rating in Halifax UK and Sucin.... 756 posts Send private message

No Potblack you have got it wrong. They can't and won't get it, unlike the rest of us that had to accept it when we went in. They are determined to try to wreck Brexit and some of them seem to look forward to a EU SSR which is almost identical to the USSR. I will be glad when the EUSSR crashes and burns, then Europeans citizens can go back to being free.





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16 Feb 2017 4:46 PM by perrypower1 Star rating in Derbyshire/Fuerteven.... 647 posts Send private message

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Unemployed Britons in EU are drawing much more in benefits and allowances in the wealthier EU countries than their nationals are claiming in the UK, despite the arguments about migrants flocking in to the country to secure better welfare payments.

At least 30,000 British nationals are claiming unemployment benefit in countries around the EU.

The research shows more than four times as many Britons obtain unemployment benefits in Germany as Germans do in the UK, while the number of jobless Britons receiving benefits in Ireland exceeds their Irish counterparts in the UK by a rate of five to one.

There are not only far more Britons drawing benefits in these countries than vice versa, but frequently the benefits elsewhere in Europe are much more generous than in the UK. A Briton in France receives more than three times as much as a jobless French person in the UK.

In Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany, Austria, France and Ireland the number of Britons banking unemployment cheques is almost three times as high as the nationals of those countries receiving parallel UK benefits – 23,011 Britons to 8,720 nationals of those nine countries in the UK.

 





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16 Feb 2017 5:05 PM by perrypower1 Star rating in Derbyshire/Fuerteven.... 647 posts Send private message

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Microsoft's own-brand laptops are the latest tech products to face price rises in the UK.  The firm has added between £150 and £400 to the cost of Surface Books sold via its website.

The company had already increased the cost of its business software and cloud services in the country in recent months.  It indicated the latest move was due to the weakness of the pound against the dollar.

"In response to a recent review we are adjusting the British pound prices of some of our hardware and consumer software in order to align to market dynamics," it said in a statement. 

"These changes only affect products and services purchased by individuals, or organisations without volume licensing contracts."

Microsoft's laptops cost between £1,449 and £3,049 depending on their specification, and the price rises range from 6.7% to 15.1%.

Sterling has dropped about 16% against the US currency since the Brexit referendum last June because of investors' concerns about how leaving the EU might affect the UK's economy, as well as other factors including an expectation that the Fed will soon raise interest rates.

Other tech firms have also recently increased prices in the UK, including Apple, HTC, Dell, HP, Tesla, HTC and OnePlus.  The wireless speaker-maker Sonos has also announced it will increase the cost of its products later this month.





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16 Feb 2017 5:08 PM by perrypower1 Star rating in Derbyshire/Fuerteven.... 647 posts Send private message

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The Ministry of Defence is facing extra costs of up to £700m a year following the UK's Brexit vote, experts warn.

The Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) says this is due to the fall in sterling where military equipment purchases have been made in US dollars.  After the referendum, the pound fell to its lowest level against the dollar in more than 30 years, making imports from the US more expensive.

The MoD said real terms spending on defence was rising year on year.

Prof Trevor Taylor, from the RUSI think tank, says that the extra costs could lead to a "budget black hole", presenting a serious problem for the UK's defence stance.





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16 Feb 2017 5:09 PM by perrypower1 Star rating in Derbyshire/Fuerteven.... 647 posts Send private message

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Brexit has pushed up cost of European holidays by £300.





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16 Feb 2017 5:12 PM by perrypower1 Star rating in Derbyshire/Fuerteven.... 647 posts Send private message

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Industry sources claim Britons are about to be hit by a “tsunami of price rises” this winter.  It comes after SSE boss Alistair Phillips- Davies said increases could be imminent, blaming the fall in the pound after the referendum for pushing up wholesale costs.  Experts believe the big six suppliers – British Gas, SSE, EDF Energy, nPower, E.On and Scottish Power – are poised to unleash a round of price rises within weeks.

 

I don't know how much more good Brexit news I can take, it is all so fantastic...not!





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16 Feb 2017 5:14 PM by perrypower1 Star rating in Derbyshire/Fuerteven.... 647 posts Send private message

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After Britain was given a ‘final warning’ by the European Commission for failing to address harmful levels of toxic air in some areas, the former Ukip leader has said the blame should be laid at Merkel’s door.

He suggested pollutants were being blown towards Britain from continental Europe and as a result the Government should refuse to pay the huge fine, which he claims could be as high as £300million.

Okay, at least that one made me laugh, bwahahahaha





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16 Feb 2017 5:29 PM by perrypower1 Star rating in Derbyshire/Fuerteven.... 647 posts Send private message

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Transport for London figures suggest that London-based embassies owe £105,258,715 for the period since the congestion charge was launched in 2003 and 31 December 2016 - up from £58m in 2012.

 

Who are the top five?  Well it is all the countries that are going to give us GREAT Brexit Trade Deals:

  • American Embassy - £11,544,455.00
  • Embassy of Japan - £7,629,370.00
  • High Commission for the Federal Republic of Nigeria - £6,481,620.00
  • Embassy of the Russian Federation - £5,603,320.00
  • Office of the High Commissioner for India - £4,991,125.00




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16 Feb 2017 5:37 PM by perrypower1 Star rating in Derbyshire/Fuerteven.... 647 posts Send private message

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Wasn't Dyson a big DayDream B*Leaver.  Nice to see he is putting his company's money where is mouth is...

UK tech firm Dyson has opened a new $400m research centre in Singapore.  It says the move was in part because of the lack of qualified scientists and engineers in Britain.





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16 Feb 2017 6:20 PM by windtalker Star rating. 1949 posts Send private message

Apparently the EU will have no other option other than, to Lett the UK stay in the single market..... according to media report's if the UK leave's the EU single market ....the UK could destroy the the tightly controlled export's and price fixing within the so called EU common market with cheap uncontrollable export's from the UK.

 

Perrypower1 you should get a life you are starting to answer your own post 8 post all one after the other this thread is starting to look like you have got a stammer.


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16 Feb 2017 6:32 PM by hughjardon Star rating in Jaywick Sands. 418 posts Send private message

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Perry are you sure your not a closet NEO NAZI because non of those comments appear any where in the NEWS I read 

Love Hugh xx



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16 Feb 2017 8:12 PM by perrypower1 Star rating in Derbyshire/Fuerteven.... 647 posts Send private message

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try BBC Hugh.





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16 Feb 2017 8:23 PM by Elsietanner Star rating in Alicante & New York. 164 posts Send private message

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perrypower1 you are making this thread a laughing stock.

High Commission for the Federal Republic of Nigeria - £6,481,620.00 and that is only for their health tourist Heathrow to hospital mini bus shuttle.



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16 Feb 2017 8:26 PM by windtalker Star rating. 1949 posts Send private message

Perrpower1 did you mean the BBC / Bullshit / Brexit / Crap.





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16 Feb 2017 11:20 PM by ads Star rating. 4134 posts Send private message

Just spotted this on the EU website (which would be relevant if the UK remained in / or gained access to the single market).

Does this provide the required reform to tackle the issues we've been highlighting ?

 

Fairness at the heart of Commission's proposal to update EU rules on social security coordination

13/12/2016

Moving within Europe – Taking with you your unemployment benefits for at least 6 months instead of 3 months

Today the European Commission is presenting a revision of the EU legislation on social security coordination. 

This is part of the 2016 Commission Work Programme and the Commission's efforts 

  • to facilitate labour mobility,
  • ensure fairness for those who move and for taxpayers,
  • provide better tools for cooperation between Member State authorities.

The proposal modernises the current rules to ensure that they are fair, clear and easier to enforce.

Free movement of people would not be possible without EU rules on coordination of social security. These rules guarantee that you do not lose your social security protection when moving to another Member State. They exist since 1959 and are regularly modernised to ensure that they respond to the social and economic reality in the EU.

Today's proposed update reflects the political commitment of this Commission to a fair and truly pan-European labour market. It is a balanced proposal:

  • It facilitates free movement of workers and protects their rights.
  • At the same time it reinforces the tools for national authorities to fight abuse or fraud.
  • It makes a closer link between the place where contributions are paid and where benefits are claimed, ensuring a fair financial distribution of burden between Member States.

Commissioner for Employment, Social Affairs, Skills and Labour Mobility, Marianne Thyssen, said: "Free movement is a fundamental right of our Union cherished by its citizens. It brings benefits to workers, employers and the economy at large, helping tackling labour shortages and skills gaps. We need labour mobility to make the Single Market prosper, and help restore economic growth and competitivenessBut mobility needs to be based on clear, fair and enforceable rules. This is a fair proposal: it safeguards free movement, while strengthening the tools to address possible abuse".

The proposal updates the EU rules in the following four areas:

Unemployment benefits:

  • Jobseekers may export their unemployment benefits from the current minimum period of 3 months to at least 6 months. This will give them a better chance to find work, and help tackle EU-wide unemployment and skill mismatches.
  • For frontier workers (who live in one country, work in another country, and go home at least once a week), the Member State where they worked for the last 12 months would become responsible for paying unemployment benefits. This reflects the principle that the Member State which has received contributions should pay benefits.
  • Member States may require that someone has worked for at least 3 months on its territory before a person who becomes unemployed can rely on previous experience in another Member State to claim unemployment benefits.

Long-term care benefits

This proposal clarifies what long-term care benefits are and where mobile citizens can claim such benefits. This will provide more legal certainty to a growing group of citizens in our aging societies relying on long term care.

Access of economically inactive citizens to social benefits

Based on case law of the European Court of Justice, the proposal clarifies that Member States may decide not to grant social benefits to mobile citizens which are economically inactive citizens – this means those who are not working nor actively looking for a job, and do not have the legal right of residence on their territory. Economically inactive citizens have a legal right of residence only when they have means of subsistence and comprehensive health coverage.

Social security coordination for posted workers

The Commission proposes to strengthen the administrative rules on social security coordination for posted workers. It wants to make sure national authorities have the right tools to verify the social security status of such workers and sets clearer procedures for cooperation between Member State authorities to address potentially unfair practices or abuse.

Finally, the proposal does not modify the existing rules on export of child benefits. No indexation of child benefits is foreseen: the country of work of the parent(s) remains responsible for paying the child allowances, and that amount cannot be adjusted if the child resides elsewhere. Less than 1% of child benefits in the EU are exported from one Member State to another.

Overall, the proposed changes will provide

  • more transparency
  • legal certainty
  • fairness

for the benefit of mobile citizenspublic authoritiesemployers and taxpayers. They facilitate free movement whilst giving Member States better tools to avoid abuses.

Moving within Europe – Taking with you your unemployment benefits for at least 6 months instead of 3 months

Today the European Commission is presenting a revision of the EU legislation on social security coordination. 

This is part of the 2016 Commission Work Programme and the Commission's efforts 

  • to facilitate labour mobility,
  • ensure fairness for those who move and for taxpayers,
  • provide better tools for cooperation between Member State authorities.

The proposal modernises the current rules to ensure that they are fair, clear and easier to enforce.

Free movement of people would not be possible without EU rules on coordination of social security. These rules guarantee that you do not lose your social security protection when moving to another Member State. They exist since 1959 and are regularly modernised to ensure that they respond to the social and economic reality in the EU.

Today's proposed update reflects the political commitment of this Commission to a fair and truly pan-European labour market. It is a balanced proposal:

  • It facilitates free movement of workers and protects their rights.
  • At the same time it reinforces the tools for national authorities to fight abuse or fraud.
  • It makes a closer link between the place where contributions are paid and where benefits are claimed, ensuring a fair financial distribution of burden between Member States.

Commissioner for Employment, Social Affairs, Skills and Labour Mobility, Marianne Thyssen, said: "Free movement is a fundamental right of our Union cherished by its citizens. It brings benefits to workers, employers and the economy at large, helping tackling labour shortages and skills gaps. We need labour mobility to make the Single Market prosper, and help restore economic growth and competitivenessBut mobility needs to be based on clear, fair and enforceable rules. This is a fair proposal: it safeguards free movement, while strengthening the tools to address possible abuse".

The proposal updates the EU rules in the following four areas:

Unemployment benefits:

  • Jobseekers may export their unemployment benefits from the current minimum period of 3 months to at least 6 months. This will give them a better chance to find work, and help tackle EU-wide unemployment and skill mismatches.
  • For frontier workers (who live in one country, work in another country, and go home at least once a week), the Member State where they worked for the last 12 months would become responsible for paying unemployment benefits. This reflects the principle that the Member State which has received contributions should pay benefits.
  • Member States may require that someone has worked for at least 3 months on its territory before a person who becomes unemployed can rely on previous experience in another Member State to claim unemployment benefits.

Long-term care benefits

This proposal clarifies what long-term care benefits are and where mobile citizens can claim such benefits. This will provide more legal certainty to a growing group of citizens in our aging societies relying on long term care.

Access of economically inactive citizens to social benefits

Based on case law of the European Court of Justice, the proposal clarifies that Member States may decide not to grant social benefits to mobile citizens which are economically inactive citizens – this means those who are not working nor actively looking for a job, and do not have the legal right of residence on their territory. Economically inactive citizens have a legal right of residence only when they have means of subsistence and comprehensive health coverage.

Social security coordination for posted workers

The Commission proposes to strengthen the administrative rules on social security coordination for posted workers. It wants to make sure national authorities have the right tools to verify the social security status of such workers and sets clearer procedures for cooperation between Member State authorities to address potentially unfair practices or abuse.

Finally, the proposal does not modify the existing rules on export of child benefits. No indexation of child benefits is foreseen: the country of work of the parent(s) remains responsible for paying the child allowances, and that amount cannot be adjusted if the child resides elsewhere. Less than 1% of child benefits in the EU are exported from one Member State to another.

Overall, the proposed changes will provide

  • more transparency
  • legal certainty
  • fairness

for the benefit of mobile citizenspublic authoritiesemployers and taxpayers. They facilitate free movement whilst giving Member States better tools to avoid abuses.

 


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17 Feb 2017 7:10 AM by Tadd1966 Star rating in Los Montesinos. 1754 posts Send private message

Ads

you are still missing 2 points

1 the uk system us not for nationals it is for residents fact. Compare uk system to system spain and you might just see the issue 

2 differentials are wrong we should have equality across the eu and post brexit across the uk not discriminating due to location and local economics

 

Brexit will not address any of these 

 

Tteedd 

I can only guess the uk was out voted because if the arrogant and selfish requests and others disagreed with the uk guess what it happens 



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17 Feb 2017 8:16 AM by perrypower1 Star rating in Derbyshire/Fuerteven.... 647 posts Send private message

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Tony Blair is to announce his "mission" to persuade Britons to "rise up" and change their minds on Brexit.

The former prime minister will say in a speech later that people voted in the referendum "without knowledge of the true terms of Brexit".

He will say he wants to "build support for finding a way out from the present rush over the cliff's edge".

Come back Tony all is forgiven





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17 Feb 2017 8:36 AM by windtalker Star rating. 1949 posts Send private message

Perrypower1 haven't you got it yet the UK is leaving the EU ,we the population of the UK live in a Democracy we had a Democratic vote and the majority of the population voted OUT.... now tell us on hear what part of that don't you understand.

We all have the INTERNET and TV so please don't bother giving a running commentary on every peace of  news you have read get a life /go out for a walk and enjoy your life and give the people around you a break.


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17 Feb 2017 8:53 AM by briando55 Star rating in Yorkshire. 1982 posts Send private message

I think some developing news is that the French car manufacturer Peugeot may relocate from the south of England to France or Germany.  

This would be a blow to the UK.  

What would probably be going through the brexiteers minds though will be, good riddance, let's bring rover or triumph back to fill the gap.   Sadly that is the absurdity of some arguments, let's hope we can salvage these plants. 



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