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Now come on....clogs are found in Lancashire, have you got PP,s researcher after he sacked him
ah sorry, just noticed your in Halifax That's borderline lanc Will,let you off
anyone know how to tell a Lancashire bloke in Yorkshire?
This message was last edited by briando55 on 07/04/2017.
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Tadd
Youbstill don't get it do you?
UKIPs 4 million votes DID indeed count in a significant way in the 2016 referendum, number of MPs makes no difference to a one person one vote referendum.
Sorry you were saying they lost? Think about it.
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What? He sacked Juncker or Tusk????
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the tears are running down my legs.........
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UKIP supporters bnp supporters even man utd supporters had a say in 2016 referendum but had no success in the last general election which is what i was refetring to and how sure are you that all UKIP members voted to exit where is your proof a good guess yes but no evidence
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That's true Tadd.
Same principle as the SNP voters not all voting to leave uk or remain in the EU, so fair point.
Maybe if we just agree that, everyone lumped in together, educated, unwashed, rich man, poor man, beggar man etc.
When all the cross section of people got together ( some didn't even vote but that's normal too).
All these people decided to place a cross on the paper, and it came back leave. So we can agree it's a fair vote, involving a representative cross section of uk people and we have a definitive result.
And it's triggered Pandora's box to be open, and the world is watching all the evils of the world coming out.
a government is judged by how it treats its people. Let's see how the EU government treats one of its member people, and let's keep those aeroplanes flying Tadd.
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We all live in hope and the signs are the eu will look after their own first and why not
I am sure Ryanair et al will keep the pressure on
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And the signs are that the UK will be fair and even handed, it's in our nature Tadd, why get involved with anything underhand.
Maybe read Ryanair blog again with an open mind. They are saying their growth is forecast from 15% down to 6%
This means growth, growth is something business's like. The downgraded forecast will likely be down to the scare tactics around I guess, it's a shame but that's the effect of silly talk.
If an ex pats pension was forecast to increase by 6% it would be delightfully accepted, but it would be a very poor forecast to make.
Ryanair expect 15% growth, with all the negotiations going on, really??????? OMG. I can't start laughing at this time in a morning,
(I wonder if all day breakfasts on the costas have any forecasts coming out?)
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Stop laughing guys, Tadd is just about to join the, why don't we just cut our wrists brigade.
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I tend to agree with Brian, Ryanair and 15% growth? even without Brexit i just cant see it. If anybody cares to consider this (expected) figure it is obviously a company blustering its turnover, and most likely for a reason. Shoring up their figures in the hope of attaining commercial finance in the event of dropping turnover as a result of Brexit comes to mind.
If you seriously consider this figure its an astounding jump in footfall in an industry that apart from seasonal varations most likely does not change much. 15%? i think its an amazing increase that would be an almost immpossible figure to achieve even with normal variations and unexpected additional traffic added to their normal turnover.
In short it is Ryanair releasing these wild predictions for their own secretive company reasons.
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Tadd1966 I did not vote ukip or BNP or man united ...I voted for the conservative party and will do so again as they have given the people of the UK a voice .
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I thought that when i read it Rob.
Its a good time to spread bad news for a company, and have an excuse to let the shareholders (and taxman) know that they shouldnt expect much year on year for a while.
And dare I say an imaginative accountant may use any growth that comes along in a way that may be beneficial for the company.
Thats one of the underying issues that Brexit may foster, but im sure there are inteligent people out there that are ready for this kind of thing!
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I think many may be interested to read ongoing analysis from this website...
http://facts4eu.org/news.shtml
It covers the aspects of Air travel (summarising "Does anyone seriously imagine that Ryanair’s absurd suggestion that “the UK could be left with no flights to/from Europe after Brexit” is likely? One look at the real facts is all it takes.The EU has no choice but to do a deal with the UK on aviation routes and regulations post-Brexit" )
It also has more recently covered the issues of Trade, and interestingly questions IS THE EU SEEKING TO IMPEDE UK-AUSTRALIA TRADE DEAL?
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A useful link Ads, thanks.
Especially the Ryanair hysterics.
Everyone is always asking for facts rather than media hype, hopefully they will read alternatives sources like this.
No doubt someone will suggest this site too only carries False News.
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Hugh the EU would be seeking to quickly negotiate a free trade agreement with Australia, as until Brexit is completed the UK can do nothing regarding ANY trade agreement with Australia, as the UK is still a member of the EU. If you were a member of the EU wouldnt you wish for any advantage to be taken before the exit of the UK? That would mean getting a trade agreement ratified BEFORE the UK leaves, enabling the EU to hold a trade advantage for their members, exactly what the EU is all about. It would mean that post Brexit any trade agreement (from Australia) with the UK would not be advantageous to the UK, and the existing free trade agreement with the EU would benefit its member states.
In this instance i would not call the report "fake news" it probably is accurate, but it has been reported in a way that is inflammatory, with a slant on generating at best discord, and at worst, hysteria. As the chap i used to work with many years ago used to wrly say, "you have to see things for what they are".
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Robert,
So are you saying that the EU will do all in their power to scupper a deal between the UK and ANY 3rd country that they also have agreements with, post Brexit?
There is a difference between looking after the interests of the EU as opposed to vindictive and highly protectionist behaviour to deter the UK from reaching a deal with third countries post Brexit.
Does this imply that in reality the EU have little intention to strike a trade deal with the UK and the negotiators are just playing for time to do the UK the most harm as an act of detterent against others to follow their citizens democratic preferences? What sort of dictatorial club is this?
Perhaps I have misunderstood?
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Oh my, we are in danger of losing the Davis Cup to the French.
No doubt that will get blamed on Brexit.
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Sorry but I'm not really grasping this (not unusual some may say).
I cant see a strategy in the way the report is presented to us. It looks on the face of it (reading between the lines) that the EU can be remarkably slow to formulate any trade deals. We saw that with the north American deal last year. Its probably because the beuracracy of the juggernaut that is the EU, and the member states meetings can drag things on.
But when they have some ruffled feathers they can be vindictive, which is what we know by the way they present themselves.
But.... if they can carry out trade deals and omit us, what is the rule that prevents us organising our own trade, with. contracts starting on future dates after our exit?
theres lots talked about politicians discussing trade, but I bet you the consulates and the civil servants are beavering away (like Humphrey), discussing what happens while everyone else is posturing.
I also have to say that the two letters sent to the Australian trade delegation were quite telling.
The UK letter is professional and has substance while the EU letter is defensive and introvert, and less than professional
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Why would any country including Australia give the uk a better deal than the eu
If the uk manage to get a better deal (highly unlikely ) it would make sense for the eu or any other nin eu country to look to get the same deal and the eu is a bigger market
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I suppose Tadd, it depends on any long standing relationships, the professional manner in which trade is conducted, the negotiation skills of the traders.
And just the basic trust of who they are dealing with.
Dont confuse trade deals with some high and mighty reasons, at the end of the day its people dealing with people and looking after interests. The UK will do Ok, they know what to expect in a fair market place and have many talented people.
The EU has a cumbersome, slow approach and give the appearance they can't be trusted to deal fairly (at the moment). They have talented people too, but need to concentrate less on trying to scupper others, it will bite them back if they do, trust me!!!! haha
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