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So you are suggesting that the EU bureaucrats had full knowledge of the fact that this would lead to large scale migration from Eastern member states?
Heads of government ads. I think you name them bureaucrats to reinforce an opinion. Heads of government agreed to stage free movement from recently joined Eastern European states exactly to give wealthier member states time to adjust. It's part of the treaty that created it. If free movement caused the British problems then it's the British governments to blame.
Now I ask you a question. Does EU migration cause such noticeable difficulties in every part of the UK? Sufficient to cause more than half the population reason to abandon the source of most of its prosperity; the single market.
Why does the movement of 3 million people to a developed nation of 65 million create such an anti EU state of mind? One of the causes I suspect is British people actually resent foreigners who work harder for less. There is a belief wages would be higher without migrant workers.
Business needs to remain competitive and is therefore obliged to employ migrant workers who are more productive and cheaper. Labour is a market like anything else and it’s natural for existing people who cannot or refuse to compete to resent the competition.
The requirement for British Business to remain competitive in global trade will continue after Brexit. In fact that pressure may well increase. Where is the productive and cheaper labour to come from? Not from within the country as long as welfare provides a comfortable life for the lazy. So the result is likely to be no change, no reduction in migrant workers to reduction in immigration.
Brexit was and is a political con trick by the hard right grasping power.The British and the Americans fell for it. The French I hasten to add are far more politically mature to fall for that.
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Time to adjust; but they still knew the migration would be 100% from east to west and the cheap labour that comes with it.
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3 million EU migrants is equal to the population of the whole of Wales check out migrant watch UK the facts are staggering .
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Windtalker
As you know Spain is also a full member of the EU !
Can you explain why they don't have a problem with migrants?
Why you don't see Calais type settlements on the border ? Why there are no queues for residencia?
Maybe if you can answer the penny will finally drop!!
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I think you will find that Spain do have continual problems with boats from Africa and Africans trying to scale large fences in Ceuta, even Spain pays better than African nations.
20 odd% unemployment in the country and lack of welfare benefits for immigrants would account for the fact that Spain actually currently has NET emigration, many bypass Spain after their application for EU citizenship in an attempt to reach the Uk as new EU citizens.
Dont the UK have to treat all EU Nationals in the same way as UK nationals?
is that not why Polish workers can also send child benefits back home to Poland?
Trouble is when the UK attempts to curb benefits, it gets strongly attacked by the BBC and the Left for pushing people into poverty..
Is it just that we are more compassionate than others in attempting to prevent poverty in the UK?
£26000 pa in housing and welfare benefits does appear to be generous in comparison to Spain.
Are you suggesting we reduce benefits drastically to discourage immigration and cast more further into poverty.
Mr Trump in disguise?
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Brexit was and is a political con trick by the hard right grasping power.The British and the Americans fell for it. The French I hasten to add are far more politically mature to fall for that.
Pull the other legs - they've got bells on.
Hard right?
Look at the constiuencies that voted out - hard right you must be joking.
Politically mature?
The nation of the horrific revolution? (revolutions) The nation of Napoleon? 1st Republic, 2nd Republic, second Empire. The nation where De-Gaule was for all practical purposes a dictator in our lifetime. Come back in 300 years.
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The Ceuta and Melilla problem for Spain is relativlly small Hugh, although it does exist and yes most want to move through Spain to better prospects.
But yes you have grasped it!
UK migration is not a EU PROBLEM!! Please tell Windtalker
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25134521
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Sorry GB but it is partly an EU problem as the asylum seekers fleeing from Syria, Afganistan, or Africa can and do claim and gain EU citizenship once they are offered asylum and EU status.
There is actually no real need for migrant camps in Calais as if the were to be granted asylum, as they should in their first port of call they can apply to be EU citizens and gain Freedom of movement into EU countries, and where is there reasonably full employment and a generous benefits system?
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Sorry GB but it is partly an EU problem as the asylum seekers fleeing from Syria, Afganistan, or Africa can and do claim and gain EU citizenship once they are offered asylum and EU status.
Refugees and Asylum seekers are a totally diferent kettle of fish and one that has been muddled up and confused with the Brixit argument!
The EU set up a redistrubition plan to deal with this problem with individual member states commiting to a certain number of people
As of April this year Spain had welcomed 18
Not on a mission about what is right or wrong - just saying that that if the UK have a migrant/ refugee problem it's purely a problem caused by the UK Gov policy and little or nothing to do with our EU membership
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EU interior ministers are due to meet in Luxembourg on Tuesday to discuss how to cope with mass migration across the Mediterranean from Libya.
Europe has become embroiled in a worsening feud over the issue, with Italy threatening to issue migrants with temporary visas that would allow them to enter other EU countries if no equitable deal is struck to share the burden.
Brussels is struggling to bring in a new quota system for migrants. The ministers will try to hammer out a response to controversial proposals from the European commission that amount to the beginnings of a coherent and shared immigration policy.
With tens of thousands of migrants crossing the Mediterranean, most of them heading for Italy, Rome appears outraged at the European infighting and is threatening to retaliate.
East European states reject the commission’s proposals, Britain and Denmark are opting out; Germany supports them; France, Spain and Portugal are lukewarm; and Italy is furious that it may be left to deal with the influx on its southern shores.
The Italian prime minister, Matteo Renzi, said that if no equitable deal is struck, Rome would start issuing migrants with temporary visas allowing them to travel elsewhere in Europe, stop receiving the hundreds of boats arriving from Libya and refuse docking for foreign ships rescuing those stranded at sea.
Austria and Hungary are threatening to close their borders to migrants, and France and Switzerland are refusing them entry from Italy. Police are patrolling international rail traffic, flouting the passport-free travel rules governing Europe’s Schengen area.
“It’s not looking good,” an EU official said on Monday ahead of the interior ministers’ session.
The EU has to take some of the blame.
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Have no fear ads. The Canadians are pouring cold water on any hope the UK may have for a CETA type trade deal after Brexit. Johnson and co have been saying CETA is a path the UK should follow and promises a bright future.
Here’s what the Canadians say. “How they think Ceta is the panacea, I’m confused,” said one senior Canadian government official who was deeply involved with the negotiations. “We still don’t get complete access to the EU market the way the Brits currently have as a member state. So I don’t understand this looking towards Ceta as the answer to Brexit when they will be taking a 43-year step backwards in terms of the current access they have to the European Union”
It took Canada 7 years of hard negotiations to arrive at CETA. The best estimate for the UK is similar or longer. Trade deals don’t just fall out of the sky. It takes a very long time to achieve them.
The hard right Brexiteers conned the British into believing they could wave a magic wand and the UK would be trading freely all around the world if they voted out. If the UK falls off a cliff in two year’s time the economy will sink into the mire. Transition is the only way forward; a transition for as long as trade deals take to achieve with other nations.
The British will have just to accept free movement and the ECJ remains if transition to going to be acceptable to the EU. for take the concequences.
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Britain's economy is growing faster than the ENTIRE G7 in another sign fears over Brexit vote are unfounded
- Global think tank OECD said UK growth in the third quarter of 2016 is 2.3%
- Average across the G7 economies between July and September was 1.4%
- Data shows the UK economy accelerating during 2016 despite Brexit vote
- Figures will boost Philip Hammond ahead of this week's Autumn Statement
The British economy has outperformed all others in the G7 group of developed nations over the past year, an international think tank has said.
The UK grew by 2.3 per cent in the year to the end of September, outpacing all other members of the group and the wider European Union.
The data collated by the OECD is a further signal that business uncertainty over the Brexit vote in June is not yet hitting the economy despite the doom-laden predictions made by the Remain campaign ahead of the poll.
The robust economic growth comes after strong employment figures, lower than expected inflation data and surging retail figures from the high street.
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Why would the UK economy not be performing well? The UK is still a member of the EU and enjoys all the benefits. Time enough after Brexit for it to stumble. That is why a transition period after Brexit negotiations are complete is essential. May seems to have accepted that at last.
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Mickeyfinn
It appears that the USA is moving towards bi-lateral deals so will Canada be following in its wake?
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Why would the UK economy not be performing well? The UK is still a member of the EU and enjoys all the benefits. Time enough after Brexit for it to stumble. That is why a transition period after Brexit negotiations are complete is essential. May seems to have accepted that at last.
I thought maybe a little bit of good news wouldn't go amiss considering all the doom and gloom this section has of late......Never mind can't be right all the time.
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The construction/building site's are building new House's like their no tomorrow, I suppose you could put that down to the EU In a roundabout way ,due to the very high number of EU migrants looking for accommodation the only draw back is that the price of houses are extremely high and are becoming unaffordable to the majority of house hunter's.
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