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you now say I am not entitled to my pension because I don't spend it in lidles, aldi, amazon, bhs and there are many more such companies like them. come off it ads don't go down windtalkers road please
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No I don't say that at all, I merely point out that the link to pensions is more complicated when considering the ongoing contributions to the economy from those who continue to live in the UK and its ability to link in increases to those pensions.
I'm not querying entitlement at all but the method in which ongoing increases to pensions are more fairly calculated to account for many factors.
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Full Uk pensions have been earnt in most cases by 35 years plus of hard graft - it's the pensioners right to spend it wherever and on whatever they choose too - madness to suggest otherwise
This message was last edited by Team GB on 13/07/2016.
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It's not a question of how you spend hard earned pensions, more the fact of how internal spending impacts a country's economy and how that ongoing economic activity assists the country to better provide for its citizens.
This message was last edited by ads on 13/07/2016.
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the tax that is not paid to the uk is offset by the tax that is paid in the u.k by expats living full time in Spain ie those under the Spanish radar and those , and there many who have pension form police , nhs, armed forces. education, and the like
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Team GB I don't know about working for 35 year's and then getting a state pension ,l am 61 I started work in 1971 at the age of 15 ,l have been working for 45 years and have been told l will not qualify for a state pension until the age of 67 that makes it approximately 52 years of hard work.Maybe if some of the poster's on hear that are living of a state pension in Spain. took that in to consideration before they start slagging off the UK ,they would not get such a hard time so please stop running down the UK and enjoy the rest of you life at the UK tax payers expense.
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Fairness lies at the heart of many of these debates, both from a perspective of questioning unfair use of benefits and unfair non payment of tax, contributions into an economy, etc but the bottom line should be provision of a fair system that takes into account all manner of complex factors, and sometimes those realities are uncomfortable to reflect upon but nevertheless essential to review during times of austerity.
Maybe the starting point should be for us all to come together to make those large corporations who fail to pay their fair share of tax far more accountable and contribute to all economies.... But that's yet another debate..... :)
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ads that is no reply to my last post is it
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I hoped it was by understanding the uncomfortable realities that lie behind the need to review the wider picture.
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ada, So I do have your blessing when I take my pension thank for that.
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I hope you don't think by that I'm condoning " working under the Spanish radar"!!!!!
It's important that we all abide by fair rules and regulations, but therin lies all manner of other debates relating to fair practice, consistent compliance, challenges to corrupt practice, fair distribution of resources, fair contribution to economies, accountability and transparency across various professional bodies etc .... And all have played their part in the Brexit debate one way or another.
Best we leave it there for now! ;)
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windtalker  what do you want team GB to do? This thread is ‘’BREXIT’’ not Crime and Pensions, as seen on channel 4. If you feel that someone is having a dig at you then send them a PM, don’t conduct yourself like a fishwife having a public slanging match.
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I was wondering, following Theresa May's pledge to appoint a minister in charge of Brexit affairs, if Boris's name has come to her mind. 
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Or Fox, Gove or Leadsom.
But not Hammond. He wants the transfer to go on for ten years. ( ie until the referendum can be said to out of date? )
Not sure what is so difficult. We want freedom from membership (everything about the EU including free movement) and we want free trade.
If we were not members and with the trade unbalance in their favour they would probably jump at a free trade deal but cavil about agriculture and services. So we concede agriculture in favour of services. Or we concede neither and continue to pay our dues on a declining scale over three years or any other such other compromise. There is no need to sit around unpicking every little detail.
France and Germany would like it all done in time for their elections next year. There is absolutely no reason why we should not be an independant nation in a matter of months.
We need to get this done quickly to give certainty to industry and the city. Continuing uncertainty is bad.
This message was last edited by tteedd on 13/07/2016.
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Just realised tteedd, we're actually discussing Brexit, is this allowed? 
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Hi Hep. As long as we are quiet and don't admit to voting out we should be OK.
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So all you brexiters - when are you going to press your new PM/leader to trigger article 50? What are you waiting for? Or will your new pm stretch it out even more - there is talk of seven years now? I think a lot of 'under the radar' people here in Spain are hoping "the longer the better"! They may have to start paying Spanish income tax and actually register their U.K. plated cars that they've been driving in here for years! Brexit forbid!
This message was last edited by Pitby on 13/07/2016.
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Or even David Davis.
DD seems to think we should take time to get our ducks in a row. I think the sooner we trigger article 50 the better.
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it isn't gonna happen in a long time!! Can't understand why, as 'the people' have voted for it. Why doesn't the next pm trigger Art.50 so soon as she can? Another delaying tactic!! Will be years!! They know it's not what the people really want and will delay it for years hoping for a better outcome! Losers!
This message was last edited by Pitby on 14/07/2016.
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Come on guy's, be sensible.
Why would you trigger article 50 when the department that is going to deal with it havn't got a room to meet in yet?.
As soon as article 50 is triggered the clock starts ticking and we need to 'hit the ground running', we need to do this correctly to get the best deal, just because the rest of the EU want to rush us to trigger article 50 doesn't mean it's right to do so.
I want us to move on from the EU as soon as possible, but with a deal that we won't come to regret later.
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