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14 Jul 2016 7:38 AM by hughjardon Star rating in Jaywick Sands. 418 posts Send private message

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Teresa May so glad she's sorting Brexit and her new cabinet as I said made the right decision to come home timed it perfectly no worries now about having to get a visa pay for health care or be booted out

Lost two stone don't drink and eat so much joined a couple of oldie clubs feel a lot more alert doctor says melanomas looking much better and I don't have to sleep with an ice pack anymore also my pension goes a lot further here it seems 

I do think the UK will sort its problems out I did not pay any tax or service costs that is true when on Campo but I actually contributed by helping to keep the local bars and restaurants going and some of those people would have paid tax so in a way I did indirectly contribute so my conscience is clear on that

And I don't spend all day on this website anymore which is good too

Love Hugh xx



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14 Jul 2016 9:43 AM by blueeyes Star rating. 64 posts Send private message

Just to correct windtalker's wrong information - although I  appreciate they were pointing out how long they will have paid in for their pension.

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14 Jul 2016 10:00 AM by Hephaestus Star rating in The Peak District Na.... 1230 posts Send private message

Cracking tip re DD tteedd, mine on Boris was an underplay. yes



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14 Jul 2016 12:22 PM by ads Star rating. 4134 posts Send private message

I wonder how many are aware of the following uncomfortable realities with regard to the behaviour of Jose Manuel Barosso and Goldman Sachs, post Brexit.

 

According to this https://www.rt.com/business/350782-barroso-new-job-goldman/

 

EU politicians are demanding former European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso is sanctioned for taking a job with Goldman Sachs. They say he has failed to “behave with integrity and discretion.”

He is criticized for joining the Wall Street bank that helped set off the 2008 financial crisis. Goldman has also been blamed for assisting Athens in hiding its financial situation in order to enter the eurozone in 2000.

Marisa Matias from the Confederal Group of the European United Left has called for an end to the impunity enjoyed by former EU officials.

“This appointment is completely shameful. Barroso waited for the end of his 18 months to immediately collect his reward for the good job he did for Goldman Sachs and the financial markets, by devastating the lives of millions of European citizens with austerity in Portugal, Greece, Ireland, Spain, Italy, among others.”

“This shows what interests European leaders follow, and a good example of why the European Union got to this appalling state,” she added.

And according to this

https://www.euractiv.com/section/euro-finance/news/civil-servants-join-calls-to-cut-barrosos-eu-pension/

French MEPs attacked Barroso with quotes taken directly from the Lisbon Treaty. They stressed that all Commissioners, including the President of the Commission, had made a solemn commitment to “respect the obligations arising [from their function] and in particular their duty to behave with integrity and discretion as regards the acceptance, after they have ceased to hold office, of certain appointments or benefits”.

Pervenche Berès, the leader of the French Socialist delegation in the European Parliament, also recalled her 2010 proposal to boycott Goldman Sachs. Her delegation then called for a revision of the Code of Conduct for Commissioners to increase the conflict of interest period from 18 months to five years, to put an end to this kind of revolving door scenario.

 

And according to this

http://www.euractiv.com/section/public-affairs/opinion/how-to-prevent-barroso-from-becoming-yet-another-lobbyist/

Former Commission President, José Manuel Barroso, is about to take on new responsibilities as non-executive chairman of Goldman Sachs International. He was hired to advise the investment bank on how to react to and manage the Brexit shock.

Yes, you got it right: the former President of the EU executive is set to become the lobbyist-in-chief for the very same bank that first helped Greece to get into the eurozone and then speculated on the country’s successive misadventures.

Yet the ensuing furore and indignation among political leaders and some civil society organisations has quickly tempered.

Amid the EU Commission’s official statement providing its imprimatur to Barroso’s new job, virtually all observers have fretted to qualify this move ‘legal’. Once more, the dominant refrain is: let the doors revolve.

Contrary to the salvific rhetoric embraced by the Juncker Commission – and blindly echoed by most media outlet across Europe–, there exist legal obligations preventing Barroso from taking up the jobs and there are avenues to actually make that happen.

While the cooling-off period during which former Commissioners can’t “lobby nor advocate with members of the Commission and their staff for her/his business, client or employer” lasts for 18 months” (and Barroso left 20 months ago), there exists a deeper, long-lasting commitment “to promote the general interest of the Union and take appropriate initiatives to that end” (article 17 (1) TEU).

This duty translates into a duty “to behave with integrity and discretion as regards the acceptance…of certain appointments and benefit” (Article 245 TFEU) and not to disclose information (Article 339 TFEU). Both duties apply to Commissioners also “after they have ceased to hold office”.

To mitigate the personal and professional burden that those extra duties may have on their lives, former Commissioners receive (including Barroso himself) a transitional allowance for the duration of 36 months (not 18). This equals between 40 and 65 per cent of their final basic salary depending on the length of service.

So they appear to get the best of both worlds, 3 years of transitional allowance which equates to between 40 and 65 percent of their salary, and after 18 months the ability to gain a salary from a Bank that has a questionable history with regard to the financial crisis, which led to mass unemployment.

I wonder whatever happened to the call for revision of conduct of Commissioners?

 

 

 


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15 Jul 2016 9:31 AM by windtalker Star rating. 1949 posts Send private message

Paris attack 84 murdered .The EU have to introduced border control to stop this madness. The UK has done right thing by leaving the EU and will reinstate border control ,you cannot have people from other countries within the EU ,with the right to come it to your country without any background check who the hell are these people .This is what freedom of movement has given us.





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15 Jul 2016 10:06 AM by ads Star rating. 4134 posts Send private message

So tragic , brutal....it was in Nice during Bastille celebrations, ( symbol of freedom), not Paris. 

Our hearts go out to them. The fanatic was French/ Tunisian known to the police but not security services.

 


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15 Jul 2016 10:17 AM by windtalker Star rating. 1949 posts Send private message

A Tunisian with a French EU passport ,the EU is to blame for this ,by giving this murdering bag of shit a EU passport ,he and any other's that have a EU passport have the undeniable right to come in to the UK without any security background  checks because its against the EU human rights act  .





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15 Jul 2016 10:54 AM by hughjardon Star rating in Jaywick Sands. 418 posts Send private message

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Yes something needs to be done immediately May should make a stand ASAP this is why people voted out of the EU not the money it's the FEAR factor any one with a non GB passport should be put on 12 mths notice to leave or re apply for residence 

Love Hugh xxx



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15 Jul 2016 11:14 AM by Tadd1966 Star rating in Los Montesinos. 1754 posts Send private message

GB passport?? Here's me thinking we are the UK

Will your suggestion also apply to people from R o I?

Not every Tunisian/French is a terrorist and it was the French who gave them a passport not the EU

Pre EU French passport holders could travel throughout many countries including the UK without visas or security checks

Sorry but these are the racist type comments that put fear into the exiters

Brexit will NOT make terrorism attacks in the UK any less or more likely as it is a global problem and the UK are and will remain a target



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15 Jul 2016 11:21 AM by steone Star rating in Santiago de la Riber.... 383 posts Send private message

Once again we have this disgusting sight of an arab killing innocent  people for some stupid reason. When are the authorities going to get it into their stupid heads that Europe is at war with these muslims. Why has not every muslim leader in Europe come out to say NOT IN MY NAME? Why don't they come out publically and loudly say stop this senseless murder? By not saying this they are part of the problem. Surely now this is one more reason as to why Europe should stop completely the influx of illegal 'refugees' from Middle Eastern countries coming to anywhere in non muslim countries. Although not all muslims are terrorists,  all terrorists appear to be muslim. By having lots of 'innocent' muslims living within our borders it makes it very easy for these hotheads to get rooves over their heads and the ability to move about without drawing attention to themselves.

During WW2, especially in the USA, all Japanese people or even Japenese looking people were 'rounded up' and put into camps. Surely now it is time to exclude all 'visitors' from these parts of the Middle East need to be banned from entering anywhere in Europe. These people do not care for 'human rights' so why should we extend them any in response?

Spain also needs to immediately stop any more 'migrants' from North Africa from entering our country and only allow those with propper jobs and earning a certain income should be allowed in.

Dont forget that these terrorists have declared war on Europe and as such appropiate action needs to be taken by all the European Governments to stop this influx of potential or future terrorists from entering and remaining in our countries.



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15 Jul 2016 11:25 AM by ads Star rating. 4134 posts Send private message

We need calm rational thoughts to determine good practical solutions across Europe and have to be really careful to retain a balance of tolerance in our societies, but backed up with solid research and effective cooperation across Europe, which should be achievable in or out of European Union.

In other words determine areas of mutual cooperation ( and trade) to the benefit of all but with  due regard to extremes that only alienate and further divide ( which is the intention of these extremists). 

 


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15 Jul 2016 11:36 AM by Tadd1966 Star rating in Los Montesinos. 1754 posts Send private message

steone

it is not just Europe they have declared war on but the entire western world and even some of their own and it is NOT all muslims

we must never go back to concnetration camps have we learnt nothing

this has nothing to do with EU it is a global problem and we have to unite to fight a cowardly enemy who opertae covertly and hide behind religion and extremism

 

ads - spot on



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15 Jul 2016 12:19 PM by ENA Star rating in Weatherfield. 30 posts Send private message

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Tadd1966 You are correct and this is a subject of its own and not really BRIEXIT. Whilst these atrocities get high media coverage, which is exactly what the terrorists want. Rarely does the media comment or ask questions  why terrorists exist and do these evil acts. Perhaps someone should start a new thread asking that question. The only problem is that the moderator usually has to shut it down due to racist comments. Seems a taboo subject to learn and know about the evil terrorists motives.



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15 Jul 2016 12:33 PM by Hephaestus Star rating in The Peak District Na.... 1230 posts Send private message

Well post 9/11 the USA and UK invaded a country that had nothing to do with the attack, the French appear to have been labelled as being anti Islam due to actions such as banning the hijab, do you think that targeting Islam in the UK will work, because I don't? The Saudis are the hub of everything Islamic, we need their intervention in this evil before someone like Donald Trump takes the lead. 



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15 Jul 2016 5:01 PM by Rossetti Star rating in Oxford and Zurich. 124 posts Send private message

Today I weep for the people of Nice and the visitors who will never see the world in the same light.

As someone who lived in the area for some 30 years and still has an apartment in the Old Town I know the area and people well I send them my wishes for a better future.

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15 Jul 2016 7:22 PM by tteedd Star rating in Hertfordshire & Punt.... 990 posts Send private message

Brexit will NOT make terrorism attacks in the UK any less or more likely

 

Au contraire

We cannot be attacked by someone who has been refused entry. The question is, will we have the will to stop them when we do have control of our borders?

I can hear the refrain now.

'You can't do that, you sound like that nasty D Trump'

Bugger that, the safety of our citizens comes first.

 




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15 Jul 2016 8:41 PM by bobaol Star rating. 2253 posts Send private message

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** EDITED - Against forum rules ** Please tell me an incident in UK where the perpetrators have come from the EU? We have enough home grown nutters of our own, thank you very much. Trying to make political capital out of this tragedy is plumbing new depths.

My thoughts are with those poor people in Nice. RIP all.

 

 


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15 Jul 2016 9:20 PM by hughjardon Star rating in Jaywick Sands. 418 posts Send private message

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I think the Vocal expats in Spain would have a different view when and not if Spain becomes a target from these radicalised terror cells if the UK wants to close its borders it is non of there business only ours who rest on her majesty's soil

My humble advice is if you are travelling anywhere in Europe stay away from the masses find a quiet corner and enjoy the your holiday in the Sun

Love Hugh xxx

 



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15 Jul 2016 9:39 PM by tteedd Star rating in Hertfordshire & Punt.... 990 posts Send private message

Abuse is no substitute for argument.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/theresa-may-british-security-services-foiled-40-terror-plots-since-77-attacks-9879712.html

Good job the security services are not so complacent.

How many of those having had their citizenship taken away have returned to the UK via Europe?

Politics should not come into it. Utterly disgusting to suggest that it does.

We all feel for the victims in France and their relatives.

Some of us feel that it is time to do something about it before nutters of other persuasions start killing other innocent people.





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15 Jul 2016 10:22 PM by potblack Star rating in Alicante & Singapore. 233 posts Send private message

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It would seem that either nobody knows or are prepard to state what the cause's of these terrorism attacks are. Why is that?.



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